OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive CD prices!!

Gory Elephant

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Holy moley!!! When was the last time anybody bought a cd at any generic mall music store??? I CANNOT believe how those places stay in business. I was at the mall tonight, killing time with the kids, and wandered into the music store to see if they had the new Mortician CD. Well, surprisingly enough, they did, but it cost EIGHTEEN FREAKING DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will NEVER pay $18 dollars for a cd. I could not believe it. Luckily I know of a distro online that carries the same CD for about $8, brand new, you just have to wait a couple weeks for it to get here. So what? $18 my ass!!!!!!!!!

There. I just had to express my disgust.

Mike.
 
You're complaining about $18? A standard underground metal cd at HMV is $25-30. I know, it's ridiculous. I should start ordering online.
 
*raises eyebrows* It's a music store...I'm pretty sure it originated in London, I could be wrong. But it's pretty goddam expensive. That's a major downside of being an underground listener.
 
yes the cd prices have gotten ridicullasly high, Borders is also another place that likes to rape for cds. but if they have it and no one else does, your pretty much forced to shell out at least 20 for a cd nowadays
 
I remember on my visit to Toronto I stopped by on Young HMV and saw the prices there, I could not believe my eyes. CDs you find ever were for $10 they have them there for like 2 times the price. My dying bride release the swans was like $32
 
I think it's funny how the same people who complain about paying more than $15 for a CD (that they will possibly listen to many times) will think nothing of paying $20-30 for a DVD (that they will maybe watch once or twice). I dunno.

Anyway, HMV sounds gay. I just order from The End. Fuck it. If they don't have it there's a metal shop that's fairly cheap. Only paid $12 for that Ulver re-mix album a few weeks ago.
 
any music shop in a mall your gonna pay an extra 3-6 bucks.

my local cd shop usually sells for 16 or lower. they sell alot of used that is garaunteed in great condition. i have picked up such great bands as death and cattle decapitation for 3 bucks a piece
~gR~
 
All of the prices you've quoted for CDs would be great deals in any store in the UK ;) The minimum you can expect to pay for any CD here is $20.. The average is at least $25 if not more.. Anyway this may be of interest to many of you:

September 24, 2002
One Buck Forty or Die

By John C. Dvorak

It's rampant. The new P2P systems, such as KaZaA and Morpheus, have picked up where Napster left off, and blank CDs now outsell prerecorded discs. The trend is clear: concern not for the law but for economics. This happens with disruptive technologies. If you had a machine that could make a new Lexus for $1,000, then why would you buy one from Toyota for $50,000? Because you had a moral obligation? You'd wonder why Toyota wouldn't use the same machine to make the car for $1,000. Where is the morality in keeping the price jacked up? Likewise, too many people are asking why they should buy a CD for $16 when they can copy one for 35 cents. We are a mercantile culture, and this is a pure cost/benefits analysis. It has nothing to do with laws. There are laws against public kissing in many cities, too. Who cares? It's about economics, plain and simple. History. Edison invented the cylinder phonograph in 1877, and he commercialized it as the Edison Phonograph in 1887. Curiously, the gramophone disc was invented by Emile Berliner the same year. In 1913, even Edison turned to the disc format. (The cylinder machine evolved into the Ediphone, a dictation device that remained popular for years.) The history of the music business is marked by such changes and dislocations.

The heyday of the 78-rpm disc was probably the 1930s, partly because of the emergence of electric recording using microphones in the mid-1920s, along with the popularity of the jukebox, which took over where the coin-operated player piano left off. It was a pay-for-play period. But over time, battles over performance rights, permissions to play discs over the radio, and musician labor strikes caused a slow evolution in the business. After World War II, this culminated in a format change, as Columbia introduced the 33 1/3 -rpm LP and RCA rolled out the 45-rpm single and EP. The format wars continued until the mid-1950s, when the 33 1/3- and 45-rpm formats became standard. Soon stereo sound was introduced. Pay for play began to die in the mid-sixties.
All the new technology had very little to do with music itself. It was about the business of distribution—the more distribution the better. Recorded music became a money machine, and by 1970 the market was flooded with music—most of it crummy. Soon the business became known as the "music industry." Factory-like. Soulless. Unsympathetic. Exploitive.
Price fixing. The music industry began to act like a monopolist. With the advent of the CD, it found that it could continue to gouge its customers. While the industry lectures the public on illegal copying, it gets busted for price fixing. So much for the morality argument.
When Edison first released his prerecorded cylinders, they sold for $4 each. With mass production, he eventually brought the price down to 35 cents, nearly a 90 percent reduction. If the same ratio held true with $16 CDs, the cost of which has been perpetually propped up by price fixing, they would cost $1.40. Since it costs less than 25 cents to mass-produce a CD, $1.40 is reasonable and profitable.
Of course, the industry would need to adjust from extravagance and sloppiness to frugality and normality. Less Dom Perignon, for starters. And it's not as if record companies and artists won't make money. 45-rpm singles used to cost 50 cents each, and it was a big deal to sell a million of them. Elvis Presley led a good life, it seems to me, by leveraging his career with those old profit margins. Heck, he was giving away Cadillacs.
It's a matter of competition. A manufactured CD for $1.40 can compete with a bootleg copy: Manufactured CDs generally play better and come with nice packages and liner notes. The industry can still make millions of dollars, just not billions. And many artists can go back to making money the old-fashioned way—by working harder and performing more. Things change, folks! The gravy train has left the station.
The U.S. government should not be corrupted by the Recording Industry Association of America and should instead do more about price fixing. And let's stop lecturing people about legality and morality. Students in particular are not moral reprobates, nor are they fools. They are pragmatists, and they stretch the rules along with their budgets. This is a crowd that worships the fake ID and is taught to question authority. So you're going to lecture them about copyrights? Give up. Rethink your business model. The problem will be solved.

:)
 
what needs to happen is someone needs to re-invent music listening. like the leap from tape to cd. somthing that sounds and has more options than both computer and cd. maybe a sort of DVD with some special encoding or somthin...

but then again, people are bent on being lazy and will figure out a way to get around it. ever notice people will work their hardest in order to ensure laziness in the future?

ya know.... bands can always do what manowar does. charge 99 cents for a mp3
~gR~
 
I buy all my cds online and usually pay $12 to $14 for em. I also frequent a used cd store for even lower prices. Chain music stores suck ass.
The two main sites I buy from are http://www.lasercd.com/default.asp and Century Media's online store. http://centurymedia.com/index2.htm CM carries shit from dozens of labels, not just their own bands. Lasercd specializes in prog. I just got Evergrey's 'Recreation Day - (Limited Edition)' for $14 from there.

The prices on both sites typically range from $11 to $14. CM will sometimes have really cheap specials. A few months ago, I got a killer deal on two Opeth cds; 'Morningrise' and 'Orchid'. They were selling em for $6 each or both for $10. Sweet! :grin:
 
I've recently started usng displeased records' online store, which has quite a bit of the somewhat more obscure stuff (I was ecstatic to find Abruptum's MCD De Profundis Mors Vas Consumet, which i've never found anywhere else), ships worldwide and accepts cash of any currency, AND it's usually less than £10 a CD.

HMV selling underground metal cd's for £20? Are you going to a phoney HMV store or something? All the HMV's i've ever been to charge a max of £16.99 for underground metal, with most of them being £14.99. Yes, rarer imports can be from £20 - £25 (almost $40) but they're nothing you can't find online. Still though, after online stores, nothing beats the local.

The music industry is a sick joke. The RIAAA should be dissolved.
 
Luckily the stores around here where I buy metal CD's are rarely more than $15. Local chain stores seem to give fairly good deals. But the national chain stores really do rip you big time.
 
The cheapest underground CD I've ever seen at an HMV was $24. They even stopped circulating their club cards so you can't get free cds anymore. So screw it, I'm gonna start ordering from the End Records.
 
Ahh,noted! When I saw 'HMV' I automatically thought £, cuz I thought HMV was a british-only thing. Never seen an HMV in america myself! at least not in texas, hawaii, california, new jersey, pennsylvania or new york.
 
Incendiare said:
You're complaining about $18? A standard underground metal cd at HMV is $25-30. I know, it's ridiculous. I should start ordering online.

Yes, but he was talking American $$$, you were talking Canadian $$$. It evens out.

I don't think HMV is in America... just Canada and the UK. If you go to http://www.hmv.com , it's in Canadian prices...and they're everywhere in Canada. I'm willing to pay the extra for CDs there sometimes... if I just don't want to wait for them.

But hey, all the prices you guys have said are nothing... NOTHING!
I sent off a money order and paid $104(CAD) for 2 CDs a few days ago. The first 2 Gorguts CDs. I've wanted them for years now, and I'm finally going to get them...and yes! I know I'm a moron!