PRO TOOLS WITHOUT digidesign/m-audio interface?

so don't give me that compatibility because I have no self control?

FXpansion pisses me off more than AVID. the vst wrapper is so half-assed I want to smack them.

You will actually find that most of the issues with our wrapper are down to dev's not coding their plugins to spec. :Spin:
 
And just food for thought: Avid have a history of ending support for products mid-cycle. I would not be surprised if Pro Tools 9.1 dropped support for some of their older hardware... like the older DSP powered units for instance.

If I were in the market... I'd be running very far away from 2nd hand Pro Tools setups, because they'll eventually just end up in the corner collecting dust.