question about Deicide--The Stench Of Redemption

Ralph Santolla and Jack Owen have proven to be more than worthy replacements since the hoffmen brothers quit, the band has gotten better, and Im looking forward to the new live dvd next month.
 
I was never a fan of them until this album came out. I've never heard their earlier stuff but their previous few albums were basically garbage in my opinion. But The Stench of Redemption is great.
 
Whilst it seemed quite good in all the generic aesthetic senses, I got totally bored of "The Stench of Redemption". Guitaring was technically proficient, it was heavy as hell, riffs were generally quite good and so on. But overall, you are just blasted for 40 mins or so, with Glenn Benton's obscene to be obscene anti-christian propaganda, making the experience entirely unrewarding. To me it is stereotypical death metal and perhaps I just don't like the style (I don't like much brutal death metal), but as I said, it was totally boring.
 
Whilst it seemed quite good in all the generic aesthetic senses, I got totally bored of "The Stench of Redemption". Guitaring was technically proficient, it was heavy as hell, riffs were generally quite good and so on. But overall, you are just blasted for 40 mins or so, with Glenn Benton's obscene to be obscene anti-christian propaganda, making the experience entirely unrewarding. To me it is stereotypical death metal and perhaps I just don't like the style (I don't like much brutal death metal), but as I said, it was totally boring.

Deicide's considered brutal DM?

I stuck with Deicide's self-titled album and Once Upon the Cross. These are their best, but mediocre nonetheless. I rarely listen to Deicide anymore. Benton is a tool and their music is some what technical and heavy at times, but usually very boring.
 
I'll have to pick this one up, pretty much everyone has highly praised it. One guy I know said it was the best thing they'd ever done, and he couldn't believe he was saying that.
 
One guy I know said it was the best thing they'd ever done, and he couldn't believe he was saying that.

I agree. I loved their s/t, but all the ones after that seemed pretty mediocre and uninspired. Scars of the Crucifix was a small step up, but Stench of Redemption took it the rest of the way. The only Deicide albums you really need are their first and this one. The rest are pretty boring.
 
Whilst it seemed quite good in all the generic aesthetic senses, I got totally bored of "The Stench of Redemption". Guitaring was technically proficient, it was heavy as hell, riffs were generally quite good and so on. But overall, you are just blasted for 40 mins or so, with Glenn Benton's obscene to be obscene anti-christian propaganda, making the experience entirely unrewarding. To me it is stereotypical death metal and perhaps I just don't like the style (I don't like much brutal death metal), but as I said, it was totally boring.

yea, it does sound a bit contrived at times
 
I agree. I loved their s/t, but all the ones after that seemed pretty mediocre and uninspired. Scars of the Crucifix was a small step up, but Stench of Redemption took it the rest of the way. The only Deicide albums you really need are their first and this one. The rest are pretty boring.

I have the self titled one but none of the rest. I love that one and want to get Legion and Once upon the Cross because most people seem to rate them even higher, and then the rest of them get lukewarm reviews at best (except Scars of the Crucifix and this one).
 
None of their albums beat The Stench Of Redemption which is imo the best album of the year. Absolutely amazing shreding that no other album from Deicide can ever match. First 2 are good. Once Upon A Cross is good but Serpents Of The Light far outbeats it imo. The two after Serpents Of The Light (which I considered to be uniquely godlike) sucked badly. Then after that Scars Of The Crucifix was slightly better than Serpents Of The Light (so making it my 4th favorite of the bad including The Stench Of Redemption). he Stench Of Redemption is easily their best, and the best album of the year. Deicide never ever has done shreding before, maybe it was the spice the band needed.

Edit: I think Legion is better than Deicide's self titled CD.
 
Deicide 'stench of redemption' is an improvement with the new guitarists but still nothing I would buy. I think with this line up change Deicide can now go up against some of the more modern death metal bands and will go out less horrible than they would have with the hoffmans. Deicide last 3,4 albums are garbage. I would say the lead playing is more over the top than a lot of death metal and will refresh the band for coming years having more complex playing lead and rythmn wise. Deicide,vader, and behemoth are probably considered the promising death metal in the now. I do not really keep up to date with newer death metal releases to really know. Ralph is a talented lead player but his solos still have a power metallish vibe and sometimes did not fit with the music or lyrically themes in death metal, if he can fix this it would be an improvement. On a side note I remember Jack Owen leaving cannibal corpse because he did not want to play death metal and had a side project. I am guessing that did not do well and he is stuck with death metal.
 
Everyone in this thread seems to be missing the point. The original poster likes the new album and wants to know if their other stuff is as good. He's not asking what you all think of their older albums in relation to YOUR OPINION OF MUSIC IN GENERAL, he's asking what you think of their older albums in relation to the NEW DEICIDE ALBUM.

So, from that POV, I'd tell you yes, their older albums are pretty much as good as Stench, but with worse guitar work. The debut, Legion, Once Upon the Cross, Serpents of the Light, Scars of the Crucifix are all fucking great so if you love the new one you will love them.
I'd even go so far as to say if you love those ones, you'd find plenty to enjoy in the "shit" albums too (Insineratehymn and In Torment In Hell).