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Steve Wilson has done nothing but good for the band....all you fools that want pure brutality without beauty can go listen to Morbid Angel (nothing against Morbid Angel).
Steve Wilson Confirms: I am producing The New Opeth Album
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Demonspell
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Excellent news, new Porcupine Tree and Opeth either this year or next...and Steven Wilson haters can bite me.
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Never heard of Steven Wilson before last year. Now I recognize him as a fucking musical god.
***shakes head in disbelief when people think BWP is just "ok"***
***shakes head in disbelief when people think BWP is just "ok"***
Protected Witness
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KevyCanavan said:
I'm so sick of this arguement. People love to make such a big deal about something they know nothing of. It's understandable if you don't like something, but to say the production is bad (or "muddy, unclear, and ... inconsistent") is just flat out wrong.
Blackwater Park has top of the line production. You cannot argue with that FACT. Now whether you like it and think it sounds good is completely up to you. Production is only one aspect of the listening experience though, let's not forget about song quality and everyone's favorite topic around here, "emotion."
If everyone is going to get their panties in such a big wad already (it's going to be at least a year from now before this album is released), you really should take a break from Opeth and listen to something else for awhile.
If you do not like the albums after Morningrise, don't blame the producers. Blame the guy in charge: Mike.
Anti-Everything
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I don't know why the fuck you guys think Deliverance and Damnation are bad albums. Those albums are extremely great and I believe are up to par with the rest of the Opeth albums. Steve Wilson has had a great influence on the band and I love the work they have done together so I'm glad that he is back and will be producing the next album.
Mayh
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Well you are pretty much wrong there. Andy Sneap didn't have anything to do with the production, he mixed them album and I believe there is a huge diffrence. Also Steven Wilson mostly works on the clean parts, which are fantastic I must say.KevyCanavan said:
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Schism said:SW: Next year ' s going to be my year for doing other things Opeth have asked me to produce their next record, which is going to be 2005, so maybe a no-man record in 2005 would be something I should put on my list as well, yeah. I still love making no-man records but this year is very much about Porcupine Tree because there's a new album to make and then all the touring and promotion attendant to that, so I am thinking that this year is pretty much wall-to-wall Tree.
http://www.highfidelityreview.com/reviews/review.asp?reviewnumber=18959790
This site reviews the new DVD-A DTS release of "In Absentia" (which I ordered today woohoo) there is also an excellent interview with Steve linked during the review
Happy Times
2005!!!!!!!! fucking A!!!!!
Eh... I think it is. Selling out is making a record that all the fans, and some non fans, are gonna love and buy a copy of. They could do a collaboration with Snoop Dogg to shift some units because some hip hop fans want them to, and that is selling out.
Let the band do what they want, and buy the album if you like. I doubt they care.
Let the band do what they want, and buy the album if you like. I doubt they care.
You all think that Steven Wilson is going to convince Mike to change his mind about the whole 'occult, almost black metal' ideas he's been having that you've all been holding onto so dearly? Steven Wilson does only what Opeth asks of him, whether it's being a producer, and a damn good one at that when it comes to sound, doing back up vocals, or whatever.
Steven Wilson is only doing what Opeth asks of him, and Mikael, Peter and the Martins know what's best for the band. There are some things about Deliverance that I haven't been able to get into, but the stuff that I do enjoy is phenomanal, in terms of production. That's what Steven Wilson has done. Anyone who compares what he's done to Bob Rock and Metallica should just. . .stop and really think about that.
Steven Wilson is only doing what Opeth asks of him, and Mikael, Peter and the Martins know what's best for the band. There are some things about Deliverance that I haven't been able to get into, but the stuff that I do enjoy is phenomanal, in terms of production. That's what Steven Wilson has done. Anyone who compares what he's done to Bob Rock and Metallica should just. . .stop and really think about that.
selling out is changing your style to please the general buying public, not trying to make an album your fans will like you dumb shit.
selling out isn't the question here. this topic is about steven wilson's involvement with the next opeth album and i suppose ultamitaly this thread has illustrated perfectly the attitude some ppl have that they will just accept any oul shit a band throws at them without question. this my friends is what the arseholes who listen to westlife do.
If you don't want to think for yourself go back to the fucking herd.
selling out isn't the question here. this topic is about steven wilson's involvement with the next opeth album and i suppose ultamitaly this thread has illustrated perfectly the attitude some ppl have that they will just accept any oul shit a band throws at them without question. this my friends is what the arseholes who listen to westlife do.
If you don't want to think for yourself go back to the fucking herd.
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Some things in the thread have been flat out retarded.
Im glad mrneil came to the rescue with some common sense.
in my opinion on the matter, im happy that wilson is back, the production of the albums has been nothing short of fantastic. Opeth is responisble for the direction of the music, so saying that steven wilson is a bad influence is ridiculous. Mikael obvious has an amazing amount of respect for him and it is evident in the dvd/ other footage/interviews available on the net. Sure he might recomend things here and there but at the end of the day it is mikael/opeth who have the final say, anything that ends up on the cd is there because they wanted it to be.
The only arguement i can see from the anti-wilson fan club can be this
1)steve wilson influences mikael to write stuff that you think mikael wouldnt have thought of himself.
From the dvd it seems apparently that steve does recommend ideas/tweaks but mikael always decides wether he wants to keep it in or not... so the arguement is pointless.
Im glad mrneil came to the rescue with some common sense.
in my opinion on the matter, im happy that wilson is back, the production of the albums has been nothing short of fantastic. Opeth is responisble for the direction of the music, so saying that steven wilson is a bad influence is ridiculous. Mikael obvious has an amazing amount of respect for him and it is evident in the dvd/ other footage/interviews available on the net. Sure he might recomend things here and there but at the end of the day it is mikael/opeth who have the final say, anything that ends up on the cd is there because they wanted it to be.
The only arguement i can see from the anti-wilson fan club can be this
1)steve wilson influences mikael to write stuff that you think mikael wouldnt have thought of himself.
From the dvd it seems apparently that steve does recommend ideas/tweaks but mikael always decides wether he wants to keep it in or not... so the arguement is pointless.
I just hope Mike is strong enough to reject all ideas that he doesn't like from Steve Wilson. It might be possible that Mike is too nice and accepts some ideas from SW just because he respects him and don't want to seem too negative. But I hope that's not the case. Opeth's pre-Blackwater Park albums were all masterpieces, all done without help from SW. If they could do it before alone before, why can't they do it now? If SW was a no-nonscence producer that 'just' produces albums, there would be nothing to worry about. Oh and I personally enjoy D1 more than BWP as an album.
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