The future of metal

clone metal

Actually, I have wished I could clone myself for the purpose of forming a band; someday this may be a possibility. Of course, I'd have to be cloned at birth, and I'd still be 9 months older than my clones, but we'd be pretty fucking tight and that way there'd be no doubt about who's in charge.
 
Actually, I have wished I could clone myself for the purpose of forming a band; someday this may be a possibility. Of course, I'd have to be cloned at birth, and I'd still be 9 months older than my clones, but we'd be pretty fucking tight and that way there'd be no doubt about who's in charge.

If your clones found out that you guys weren't really triplets at birth, but that you had them created just for your sinister plan to create a band for your selfish desire..then they would murder you
 
I think Power Metal might be too much for your average music listener.

I don't get how you think Power Metal is too much for the average music listener.I think it the perfact metal metal for a pop music listener.It doesn't have growls and screams that everyone aside from metalheads make fun of.It got great musicians in the band.It can also be very pop at times which makes me think someone that listen to pop music will like it.It can be great for people that listen to corporate rock that they can hear solos from bands that aren't classic rock.It would be good for people that used to listen to Judas Priest and Iron Maiden and says that metal today is a bunch of screaming and hears power metal and they will like it which won't surprise me since a lot of the power metal bands are influence comes from those bands.
 
If your clones found out that you guys weren't really triplets at birth, but that you had them created just for your sinister plan to create a band for your selfish desire..then they would murder you

No, because they'd be me. I know that if I found out I had been created to play heavy metal, my reaction would be "you fucking bet I was" *Bill and Ted guitar lick*
 
I don't get how you think Power Metal is too much for the average music listener.I think it the perfact metal metal for a pop music listener.It doesn't have growls and screams that everyone aside from metalheads make fun of.It got great musicians in the band.It can also be very pop at times which makes me think someone that listen to pop music will like it.It can be great for people that listen to corporate rock that they can hear solos from bands that aren't classic rock.It would be good for people that used to listen to Judas Priest and Iron Maiden and says that metal today is a bunch of screaming and hears power metal and they will like it which won't surprise me since a lot of the power metal bands are influence comes from those bands.

In theory this would work, however Power metal is Metal and way too extreme for your average music listener.

The arrangements often aren't simple enough, the guitars are too heavy and complex, the solos are all too much, the singing is too bombastic, the subject matter is not simple enough etc...

No, because they'd be me. I know that if I found out I had been created to play heavy metal, my reaction would be "you fucking bet I was" *Bill and Ted guitar lick*

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The arrangements often aren't simple enough, the guitars are too heavy and complex, the solos are all too much, the singing is too bombastic, the subject matter is not simple enough etc...

As someone who listens to pop music 40 hours a week I dispute this. The complexity of the music is irrelevant as long as it has hooks (and I don't know what power metal you're listening to, but it's really not all that complex usually), the solos certainly aren't gonna bother anyone, the singing isn't too hardcore, and with the lyrics, again, as long as it has a catchy chorus they can sing about whatever the hell they want. The guitars being too heavy might be a problem with some of the heavier power metal, but I'm pretty sure most people won't have a problem with Sonata Arctica, Edguy (already mostly a rock band), Avantasia, Rhapsody (actually, Rhapsody wouldn't catch on because some of their stuff is too symphonic and not catchy enough, but songs like Silent Dream, Unholy Warcry, and Emerald Sword could definitely make it). In fact I know this because I've played a bunch of power metal (and specifically those bands) to people who don't listen to metal at all and they've dug it.
 
As someone who listens to pop music 40 hours a week I dispute this. The complexity of the music is irrelevant as long as it has hooks (and I don't know what power metal you're listening to, but it's really not all that complex usually), the solos certainly aren't gonna bother anyone, the singing isn't too hardcore, and with the lyrics, again, as long as it has a catchy chorus they can sing about whatever the hell they want. The guitars being too heavy might be a problem with some of the heavier power metal, but I'm pretty sure most people won't have a problem with Sonata Arctica, Edguy (already mostly a rock band), Avantasia, Rhapsody (actually, Rhapsody wouldn't catch on because some of their stuff is too symphonic and not catchy enough, but songs like Silent Dream, Unholy Warcry, and Emerald Sword could definitely make it). In fact I know this because I've played a bunch of power metal (and specifically those bands) to people who don't listen to metal at all and they've dug it.

What in your opinion is keeping Power metal from gaining mainstream awareness or popularity?
 
Lack of exposure, for one. It has a low mainstream popularity in South America, Germany, and Japan, but in the US, "metal" essentially means "nu-metal", and even that doesn't get radio play. Everyone is expected to like rap and dance music, and swallow vapid, synthetic sugar-pop hits by diva big-names.

I mean, I'm the wrong person to ask, because I am a diehard power-metal fan, of both the European flower style and the harder-edged Iced Earth style, so I can't really explain it. I used to listen to pop rock until someone played me DragonForce and Sonata Arctica, and I instantly realized this was the perfect genre for me. So because it so massively appeals to me, I have trouble understanding all the hate flung at it. :rolleyes:

It could just have something to do with the general American psyche. I'm open to thoughts.

I'd love to live somewhere where power-metal singers are massive celebrities and their songs appear on reality TV shows. .
 
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What in your opinion is keeping Power metal from gaining mainstream awareness or popularity?

Yeah, pretty much lack of exposure. Dragonforce got some serious exposure, but I feel like that did nothing for power metal because they got pigeonholed into spastic wankery and are now permanently associated with Guitar Hero nerdom. In fact, I suspect that the Guitar Hero series hasn't done a whole lot for metal; it's given it some exposure, true, but in the context of an embarrassingly nerdy activity.
 
I dunno how else to describe their instrumental sections, or their guitar hero equivalents. The thing is that at the core Dragonforce are a damn good power metal band, but the wankery gimmick sold and they moved in that direction and it kinda ruined things. The first two albums are great, but after that it's just wank-wank-wank.* Too bad, because ZP is a great vocalist.

*Actually, the second album is pretty damn wanky, but it still rules.
 
Well, DF got me into power metal, from knowing absolutely nothing about it (with a little help from Sonata Arctica and Iron Savior). And that was before the whole GH ridiculousness, which was the ultimate mixed blessing.

Still, though, every plastic-button kid who went to a DF concert last winter also saw Turisas; each who went this spring saw Cynic and Daath; this fall saw Sonata. So however much you hate them (and God knows do people really, really hate them), they're putting people in front of metal and giving it a chance to win them over. How can you argue with that?
 
Has anyone thought of the idea that a new instrument might be invented in the future? Obviously new guitars are always being made, but they are evolving rather than shooting off into a whole new branch of instruments..for example, 8-string guitars have only been in use in metal for a very short time and is giving a slightly fresh sound to some genres, such as Tech-Death (i.e. Meshuggah's Nothing)

Problem is, with the invention of the keyboard, almost any sound imaginable can be produced with the hit of a key..shit I could make a death metal song purely with a keyboard..admittely it will be teh geyz