The great and all powerful religion thread!

[Son of Evil]

I thought Hinduism had 3 main gods/goddesses?

No. Actually, the Vedas say that Lord Vishnu created Brahma and Shiva, and gave them the powers of Creation and Destruction, while He preserved everything. This was misinterpreted into the trinity.

You can see that both Brahma and Shiva are subservient and merely act at the Behest of the Lord who preserves everything, including them.

EDIT: That is why we believe the Bhagavad Gita was given, to clear the doubts.

 

[cookiecutter]

Going back about a page. Just because we do not currently have a good explanation for the origin of the universe does not lend any credence to the "God did it" hypothesis. Not only does not have an iota of evidence to support it, it dies to its own supposition that something cannot come from nothing.

On Agnosticism: Depending on your definition of agnosticism you could say I was one because I am not 100% certain of the nonexistence of God. However since absolute certainty is not possible for anything as Necuratul tried to show you with the Sun analogy, we can instead look at what is most probable. Since the probability that God exists is so low, it is not rational to believe in him, or even harbor significant doubt. You are not agnostic about Santa or the Tooth Fairy why be about God?

Bluewizard: One thing I read recently that made me think about death was the observation that death will be the same as being unborn. I was nonexistent in 1450 and I will be 2450. I don't remember anything bad about 1450, so I have nothing to fear about death. The best thing to do is just to live your one life the best you can and try to leave something positive behind after you.

 

[ohiogrinder]

I've always lived my life in such a fashion, but I have also always been Christian. Don't worry, they exist; not all Christians are evangelical pricks.

thats fine. at least you're intelligent and sane.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

On Agnosticism: Depending on your definition of agnosticism you could say I was one because I am not 100% certain of the nonexistence of God. However since absolute certainty is not possible for anything as Necuratul tried to show you with the Sun analogy, we can instead look at what is most probable. Since the probability that God exists is so low, it is not rational to believe in him, or even harbor significant doubt. You are not agnostic about Santa or the Tooth Fairy why be about God?

Because there are rational explanations for most observed phenomena. That's what makes uncertainty about the Sun rising ridiculous. There is no rational explanation for how the universe was created. The origin of the universe does not fit into any known scientific, logical, or causal framework. I'd say that uncertainty about a mystery like that is quite reasonable.

 

[Matt]

^ You just ruined the sig I redid.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

"god fearing"
will somebody please tell my why you would fear your god? It just seems so fucking stupid.

 

[Matt]

Because theoretically they could sentence you to eternal damnation.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

^ Is that av from Brain Salad Surgery? That album is the shit.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

^ You just ruined the sig I redid.

Ruined? What's ruined about it? I wanted to add some new bands to it.

 

[Matt]

^ Is that av from Brain Salad Surgery? That album is the shit.

Yes. Their only great album.

Ruined? What's ruined about it? I wanted to add some new bands to it.

the Down, Motorhead and Doobie Bros logos are all low quality.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

the Down, Motorhead and Doobie Bros logos are all low quality.

Well, they're the best I could find. Feel free to PM me links of better versions.

 

[The Ozzman]

Speaking of your sig, I found a Cathedral EP at the local used CD store and I instantly bought it.

Great shit!

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Which one was it?

Hopkins and Statik Magik are the fucking shit.

 

[cookiecutter]

Because there are rational explanations for most observed phenomena. That's what makes uncertainty about the Sun rising ridiculous. There is no rational explanation for how the universe was created. The origin of the universe does not fit into any known scientific, logical, or causal framework. I'd say that uncertainty about a mystery like that is quite reasonable.

The point is that until we are presented with evidence, we can be certain beyond a reasonable doubt that God is not the correct answer. Not knowing at this point is eminently reasonable because we haven't been able to find an answer scientifically yet.

 

[~Derek~]

^But some people theorized we may be able to create "God" in the future with articifical intelligence. I believe it was Asimov who said this. And upon seeing that all religions have their miracle claims(it just seemed like Christianity was the only real one) I feel better concerning things, my thoughts of the subject are decreasing, for now I'm at ease.

 

[cookiecutter]

The fact that you still feel fear shows how emotionally painful religion can be.

 

[~Derek~]

^I know, I wish I had never been raised Christian, and I've been an ex-Christian for a couple years now. Since I was 16.

 

[skeptik]

Actually "well the sun rose today, and yesterday, and every day that I can possibly recall" doesn't qualify as a "rational explanation." I can see my elderly neighbor go outside to get the newspaper at the exact same time every day no matter what the weather for the first 40 years of my life, but that doesn't assure that it will happen again tomorrow.

 

[cookiecutter]

But understanding the physics of the orbit of the Earth around the Sun does qualify as a rational answer.

 

[skeptik]

For all we know, the sun has already blown up and tomorrow will be the last day that the sun's energy will ever reach the Earth, so no, it's not a rational answer unless you've been to the sun recently and know, due to the fact that it still exists, it will send its rays down to the Earth for at least the next X so many years.