maybe people would stop "harrassing" you if you quit posting about it.... you're like a broken record and have flogged the horse way past death.Dodens Grav said:
You don't like being compared to Stun, but that's exactly what you're acting like.
The new Exodus album Tempo of the Damned....
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You don't like being compared to Stun, but that's exactly what you're acting like.
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This is a conversation. Conversations would be boring if people didn't talk while having them. I don't understand why I'm the one being compared to an annoying girlfriend and a broken record when all my posts were first, and then all the other posts were responses to my posts. I also understand the point of shutting up when people still don't understand. I'm trying to make a point, and I won't stop until it's understood. Is that so unacceptable? Before today, this is the only board I posted at I didn't have to worry about be harassed, but it looks like that's changed now.
I just want you to realize that, even if you've known the band your entire life, that doesn't mean the album is amazing. That's not saying that the album isn't amazing in your opinion, I'm more referring to the loyalty you feel toward the band. You have no point, or right, to jump down other's throats about their personal opinions just because you feel a connection to the band. I don't have a connection to the band, so I can judge for myself. Now if you're all done singling me out, bickering about my opinion, and saying "based on what I've heard" in order to mock me (which was an entirely legitimate claim in itself), I'm done here.
Oh, and if I was like Stun, I would try belittling everyone, but as far as I've seen, I haven't done that in any way whatsoever, because I have no reason to. I just want to make sure my point is well taken, that's not asking much. And if anyone does perceive anything that I've said as an attack or an insult, I apologize, it wasn't my intention. I just want peace posting on this board, while still being able to post my thoughts on things. That's it. Can we agree on this?
I just want you to realize that, even if you've known the band your entire life, that doesn't mean the album is amazing. That's not saying that the album isn't amazing in your opinion, I'm more referring to the loyalty you feel toward the band. You have no point, or right, to jump down other's throats about their personal opinions just because you feel a connection to the band. I don't have a connection to the band, so I can judge for myself. Now if you're all done singling me out, bickering about my opinion, and saying "based on what I've heard" in order to mock me (which was an entirely legitimate claim in itself), I'm done here.
Oh, and if I was like Stun, I would try belittling everyone, but as far as I've seen, I haven't done that in any way whatsoever, because I have no reason to. I just want to make sure my point is well taken, that's not asking much. And if anyone does perceive anything that I've said as an attack or an insult, I apologize, it wasn't my intention. I just want peace posting on this board, while still being able to post my thoughts on things. That's it. Can we agree on this?
ok, I'm losing patience with you. everybody got your point the first 30 times..... and them thinking you're wrong and don't know what you're talking about is THEIR opinion!! You want to be entitled to your opinion, then let them be entitled to THEIRS!!
The only reason you're being "harrassed" is because you keep posting about the same thing over and over!! YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE LAST WORD EVERYTIME!! You contradicted yourself with, "I also understand the point of shutting up when people still don't understand. I'm trying to make a point, and I won't stop until it's understood."
As for belittleing people, what does making them out to be too stupid to understand your opinion equate to? Not to mention that you're talking down to people in your posts... you want people to respect your opinion, yet you refuse to listen to what they're saying unless they're agreeing with YOU. All I've gotten on this page is that you basically want everyone to somehow acknowledge that you're right. its not going to happen.
Now you've said all your little glossy things and tried to make everything right, SO LET IT GO!! (IE stop/finished/done/over/don't reply!!). In the nicest way possible, I'm asking you to quit. You don't need to have the last word all the time, and not everything is an attack. The more you keep typing, the more others are going to type. I know you feel the need to respond, but think of the words of the Gambler....
The only reason you're being "harrassed" is because you keep posting about the same thing over and over!! YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE LAST WORD EVERYTIME!! You contradicted yourself with, "I also understand the point of shutting up when people still don't understand. I'm trying to make a point, and I won't stop until it's understood."
As for belittleing people, what does making them out to be too stupid to understand your opinion equate to? Not to mention that you're talking down to people in your posts... you want people to respect your opinion, yet you refuse to listen to what they're saying unless they're agreeing with YOU. All I've gotten on this page is that you basically want everyone to somehow acknowledge that you're right. its not going to happen.
Now you've said all your little glossy things and tried to make everything right, SO LET IT GO!! (IE stop/finished/done/over/don't reply!!). In the nicest way possible, I'm asking you to quit. You don't need to have the last word all the time, and not everything is an attack. The more you keep typing, the more others are going to type. I know you feel the need to respond, but think of the words of the Gambler....
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That was supposed to be "I also don't understand the point of shutting up when people still don't understand." My apologies. So then there's no contradiction.
I've not seen anyone yet aknowldge my opinion without mentioning how ridiculously wrong I am first. My opinion can't be wrong, regardless if it's based only on a small sample, because my opinion wuold not be based on the entirely if I only heard a small sample. Instead, what I got was 'you're so wrong' and 'why don't you and Stun jerk each other off' instead of 'well from what I've heard, I don't think the same way you do.' You don't even know what I've heard. Maybe the songs that I've heard are the weakest off of the album. Would my opinion still be wrong to you then? No one has yet acknowledged the fact that I'm entitled to my opinion without backlash. I haven't gotten that. I've gotten backlash after every single post. Like I said, I'm not going to stop until I'm understood, or until I can see that I'm understood, because based on your reaction, pest, you still are not understanding. You can't think someone else's opinion is wrong, because it's what he likes, not what you like. You can think differently than someone else's opinion, but you can't accuse another's opinion of being wrong, because it's simply not possible.
Now, let me make this clear. I love Testament. I also love Exodus. I love Thrash Metal altogether, and since this is the only Thrash board here, I figured it would be a good place for me to hang out. It was for a long time too. But then I had to express my opinion on the new Exodus. It's ridiculous how much this has dragged out (and no, it's certainly not my fault alone), this whole conflict has been spawned by the fact that I didn't like the new Exodus so far.
This situation has been blown way out of proportion. So this is the situation that we have now, forget everything that has previously been said. I do not like the new Exodus from what I heard of it so far. That is the situation we're in. You are allowed to think differently, but it's too far if you go so far as to say that I'm wrong, because you me, I'm right, and since music is subjective, there is no one right.
I don't want to continue this. However, if I'm still going to have to face everyone, I will continue until I'm allowed to not like the new Exodus without being told that I'm wrong (which would be telling me that I DO like the new Exodus). This is as close to an altimatum as we'll get here. Accept my opinion as the subjective (and therefore valid) point that it is, and I'll stop. Continue to tell me that I'm wrong, and I'll continue. However, after this is over, I don't want to be on negative terms with everyone, since I'm not going anywhere. I'm not like Stun. I haven't belittled anyone and told them that they're finally expanding their tastes, etc. I am not judging or criticising anyone. I just want my opinion to stand, that's all.
Again, to anyone I've offended or angered, I apologize. I know I've angered a few just by continuing, but I hope you can forgive me for this once it's over. I plan on being a member of this community for a while yet, so I don't want any rivals. I don't believe anyone has had a problem with me before this, so I'm sure you all can let this go in time.
I've not seen anyone yet aknowldge my opinion without mentioning how ridiculously wrong I am first. My opinion can't be wrong, regardless if it's based only on a small sample, because my opinion wuold not be based on the entirely if I only heard a small sample. Instead, what I got was 'you're so wrong' and 'why don't you and Stun jerk each other off' instead of 'well from what I've heard, I don't think the same way you do.' You don't even know what I've heard. Maybe the songs that I've heard are the weakest off of the album. Would my opinion still be wrong to you then? No one has yet acknowledged the fact that I'm entitled to my opinion without backlash. I haven't gotten that. I've gotten backlash after every single post. Like I said, I'm not going to stop until I'm understood, or until I can see that I'm understood, because based on your reaction, pest, you still are not understanding. You can't think someone else's opinion is wrong, because it's what he likes, not what you like. You can think differently than someone else's opinion, but you can't accuse another's opinion of being wrong, because it's simply not possible.
Now, let me make this clear. I love Testament. I also love Exodus. I love Thrash Metal altogether, and since this is the only Thrash board here, I figured it would be a good place for me to hang out. It was for a long time too. But then I had to express my opinion on the new Exodus. It's ridiculous how much this has dragged out (and no, it's certainly not my fault alone), this whole conflict has been spawned by the fact that I didn't like the new Exodus so far.
This situation has been blown way out of proportion. So this is the situation that we have now, forget everything that has previously been said. I do not like the new Exodus from what I heard of it so far. That is the situation we're in. You are allowed to think differently, but it's too far if you go so far as to say that I'm wrong, because you me, I'm right, and since music is subjective, there is no one right.
I don't want to continue this. However, if I'm still going to have to face everyone, I will continue until I'm allowed to not like the new Exodus without being told that I'm wrong (which would be telling me that I DO like the new Exodus). This is as close to an altimatum as we'll get here. Accept my opinion as the subjective (and therefore valid) point that it is, and I'll stop. Continue to tell me that I'm wrong, and I'll continue. However, after this is over, I don't want to be on negative terms with everyone, since I'm not going anywhere. I'm not like Stun. I haven't belittled anyone and told them that they're finally expanding their tastes, etc. I am not judging or criticising anyone. I just want my opinion to stand, that's all.
Again, to anyone I've offended or angered, I apologize. I know I've angered a few just by continuing, but I hope you can forgive me for this once it's over. I plan on being a member of this community for a while yet, so I don't want any rivals. I don't believe anyone has had a problem with me before this, so I'm sure you all can let this go in time.
see, you just can't let it go.....
have you ever heard the saying "let sleeping dogs lie?"
or better yet, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and they all stink...."
you want everyone to like your opinion.... the simple fact is THEY DON'T HAVE TO! You're trying to make it out that somehow your opinion is MORE VALID than theirs. What don't you get about it? I can see you're only 16, but you need to learn some lessons about life.... and if you don't want to be on negative terms with everyone, you need to stop. all you're doing by dragging this out is pissing people off. you're being sooooooo gay about your, "I'm entitled to my opinion without backlash" schtick. you aren't entitled to anything. and you can't tell me you've never disagreed with someone else's opinion and gotten upset.
Instead of you saying "I'm going to drag this out as far as I can until I piss everyone completely off because I think I'm right, and everyone else is wrong, and I won't quit until they admit it...." (which is exactly what you're doing at this point), why don't you say "you have you're opinion and I have my own...."
Honestly, you're being a big baby over nothing and dragging it out to the point where you just make yourself look silly.
have you ever heard the saying "let sleeping dogs lie?"
or better yet, "opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and they all stink...."
you want everyone to like your opinion.... the simple fact is THEY DON'T HAVE TO! You're trying to make it out that somehow your opinion is MORE VALID than theirs. What don't you get about it? I can see you're only 16, but you need to learn some lessons about life.... and if you don't want to be on negative terms with everyone, you need to stop. all you're doing by dragging this out is pissing people off. you're being sooooooo gay about your, "I'm entitled to my opinion without backlash" schtick. you aren't entitled to anything. and you can't tell me you've never disagreed with someone else's opinion and gotten upset.
Instead of you saying "I'm going to drag this out as far as I can until I piss everyone completely off because I think I'm right, and everyone else is wrong, and I won't quit until they admit it...." (which is exactly what you're doing at this point), why don't you say "you have you're opinion and I have my own...."
Honestly, you're being a big baby over nothing and dragging it out to the point where you just make yourself look silly.
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You Dodens Grav......should play spin the bottle, after you beat that dead horse, into a grave!.......but only kiss eachother 15% of a kiss, and no tongues, then you'll both say that the other one does not know how to make out!...................MindInsane said:
And Dodens, a book can start out slow, & then all of the sudden....you can't put it down til you finish the book, but if you don't read past the first 2 chapters then you would never know, & think its a shitty book.....and its your loss...?
And for a second example.........John Douglas(Ex-FBI profiler).....needs all the information, to do a complete profile, he needs the crime scene photo's, arial photo's, visits the crime scene, reads all police reports, reads and listens to all interviews of witnesses, studies the coroners medical reports, and post mortem photo's, studies the victims lifestyle, looks at the physical evidence, has access to all police files on the case, and does a complete assessment, not a partial one...........if he does not have all these elements for his investigation, then he can not do a proper job, and he refuses(and has on many occasions) to look at a case, or work on it, same goes for any other true profiler.........All information & evidence has to be attained, to get the whole picture............................not just 2 songs(and they are not even the best songs from that album,IMO).....your missing well over 85%, of the complete album..........and if you know Exodus, you know that on all their albums(excluding Bonded By Blood), it will have an Epic masterpiece, thats in it self over 8 to 11 minutes long(Pleasures Of The Flesh, Like Father Like Son, Changing Of The Guard, Architect Of Pain)........that one song is longer and better than the 2 songs you've heard already, in it self...........so don't judge a Book by its first chapters, and the same goes for Music & Murder Investigations!
Thirdly.......when you ride a rollercoaster....you wait in line.....then you get in the car, and start out slow, and slowly ......climb..........click....click....click.....click.....click.....click......then you reach the pinnicle and the rollercoaster ride gets faster, gets better, gets more exciting, changes direction, turns you in a loop, gives you exhilaration, you feel it in your stomach......etc......you just can't ride the first part(15%) over and over, and expect to know what the ride and coaster will be like, until you complete the ride(the other 85%), and acess and compare it to other coasters you've riden before..........thats just common sense.........nothing more nothing less!
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Opinions are like assholes............everybody's got one........some just don't know when to shit or get off........ haha
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I'm not trying to say my opinion is more valid, pest, I'm just trying to say that my opinion is valid, period. Equally valid, not more, not less. That's it. But I still have people disrespecting me. I don't care how long this has to go. Obviously the horse isn't dead if there's still people who don't accept that my opinion is valid, so there goes your analogy. You accuse me of being like Stun because I'm the one talking down to everyone, which I have not done, but then most of the people in this thread are doing just that to me. How's that for irony? And about the book, I said you can assume that it would suck based on what you've read, that doesn't mean the book does suck, or even that the book would suck to that person if he were to read the whole thing. The same applies to me. Of the few 'chapters' I've 'read' of the new Exodus 'novel,' I am assuming that it's not going to be great. However, I never put a book down until I'm done. I never said I wasn't going to listen to the rest of the song. In fact, I even said that I was going to buy the album no matter what. I'm just saying that I don't like the songs that I've heard so far. I am allowed to not like songs of one of your favorite bands right? Or does that just mean that I'm wrong, becase in fact I actually do like them, since you like them?
Oh, and I apologize to the one who says I'm 'just being difficult,' I didn't quite catch your name. I'm not doing this to be difficult. I'm just having a discussion. I'm not quite sure why everyone has has resorted to name calling, this is just a discussion at this point, not an argument. If you don't want to be in the discussion, you don't have to be.
Oh, and I apologize to the one who says I'm 'just being difficult,' I didn't quite catch your name. I'm not doing this to be difficult. I'm just having a discussion. I'm not quite sure why everyone has has resorted to name calling, this is just a discussion at this point, not an argument. If you don't want to be in the discussion, you don't have to be.
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well its a killer album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not thier best but killer!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bonded by blood is for me their best!!!!!!!!!!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr is my Sheperd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like Force of the Habit(am i wrong) for me its a good album but hell yeah i dont wanna a New Exodus sound ok coz Exodus is heavir than time and fuck all the others!!!!!!!!!!!!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr is my Sheperd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like Force of the Habit(am i wrong) for me its a good album but hell yeah i dont wanna a New Exodus sound ok coz Exodus is heavir than time and fuck all the others!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Your right, I don't think you know how to make out right anyhow.......being married 6 years and all........you've lost your touch!MindInsane said:This thread is getting rediculous...maybe we should close it
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Let's see if we can make it go any more south than it already has...maturity runs rampant around here sometimesDeadly Embrace said:
keep it going and I'm sure all the readers out there will be chomping at the bit to post on the Testament forum..because hey...we're real good at bringing up people's personal lives in here and making fun of them...I can't think of anything more appealing.dude, why should someone send it to you? just buy it when it comes out like the rest of us.....
and you're the last person that should be talking about people getting involved in other people's business, especially when you start dragging shit into other thread and don't know what you're talking about..... and stop trying to play the martyr, its lame....
and you're the last person that should be talking about people getting involved in other people's business, especially when you start dragging shit into other thread and don't know what you're talking about..... and stop trying to play the martyr, its lame....
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Yeah, because I'm the one calling everyone a girl and a 16 year old ignorant fool.:Smug: Bringing something to another thread is not personal business. And I didn't personally attack anyone either. I didn't like what I heard from the new Exodus, and I'm allowed to. It doesn't mean I'm wrong, whether you like it (the music), or not. Get that through your head already.
you're a waste of time.... go on thinking you're right, its ok with me. life is going to teach you a lot of cold, hard lessons.
so make the best of being 16, living at home with mommy and daddy, because when reality sets in and you're out on your own, all your little excuses will mean nothing. same with your righteousness and opinion.....
so make the best of being 16, living at home with mommy and daddy, because when reality sets in and you're out on your own, all your little excuses will mean nothing. same with your righteousness and opinion.....
I prefer putting it this way, especially (only?) when I know I'm right. Opinions are like assholes. Mine works. Yours STINKS!Valofvalhalla said:Opinions are like assholes............everybody's got one........some just don't know when to shit or get off........
I'm afraid to even get involved in this thread. I haven't heard one track, and I don't download, so I will wait, and form my opinion later on, when I can hear the whole thing flow, start to finish.
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