Bound2Fate
Member
Yea, that definitely was the best part of the plot in Defiance. Soul Reaver 2 is my favorite of all of them though. Really hope they make a new one someday...
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Well, thanks to a friend who joined me to the gig I could meet Kobi and Yossi two days ago, and she managed to contact them through... Facebook. And there on this very forum I was saying all those nasty things about Facebook. I feel confused now. I mean, I still would say FB is evil, but it came in handy this time. Damn, I feel like an activist against capitalism and big multinationals who after the protest march grabs a burger in the local McDonalds ... 
Raziel X
Member
Hopefully yea, Janos doesnt deserve to stay in Hell
And Soul Reaver shall get a voice... if you took Raziel from us, let us at least hear his voice or see his spirit/ghost from time to time
Well, thanks to a friend who joined me to the gig I could meet Kobi and Yossi two days ago, and she managed to contact them through... Facebook. And there on this very forum I was saying all those nasty things about Facebook. I feel confused now. I mean, I still would say FB is evil, but it came in handy this time. Damn, I feel like an activist against capitalism and big multinationals who after the protest march grabs a burger in the local McDonalds ...
Yum
FB isnt evil... you just gotta keep an eye on certain things, and do what you want... and it is a great tool to organise stuff, but also finding old friends or classmates
Btw you guys are welcome to add me on WLM (mirokizak@live.com), if you use other messengers, let me know and I give you my info
Well, to keep in touch with people I wish to keep in touch with, there's email. Old school, but I still love it The issue with Facebook is that not everyone wants to be found by old co-students and such. Sometimes you want to turn the chapter of the past and move on, and while email is anonymous, Facebook makes it easier to be traced. And that's great for those who like to stay in touch with old schoolmates etc, but for those of us who wish to close the chapter of what's been the "benefit" becomes a problem instead. So I rather give my email to those I want, rather than using Facebook or MySpace or Friendster or whatever ...
PS: FB is evil as in: privacy is an illusion and your data are scanned by bots to use for commercial purposes. MySpace is even worse as it was bought by a Republican guy who now tries to push some Republican propaganda through people's mouth on MySpace. So these sites aren't as innocent as they appear.
Some people told me I could promote my writings with Facebook. I don't want that. I mean, it would be like bands singing how bad capitalism is, then to do whatever possible to sell as many merchandise through outlets they criticise in their songs. "Idealism of the lazy man" if you know what I mean. The day the profile sites get rid of these silly games and allow more anonimity I may give it a second chance. For now, email is still king for me
By the way, those who are keen on networking sites may know Adult Friend Finder? A colleague back in Ireland used it. I find the concept quite disgusting but well, he was an avid user and even paid for membership ... Quite a disgusting idea if you ask me, but then I am quite sure lot of people use FB or MySpace as well for dating purposes...
The issue with Facebook is that not everyone wants to be found by old co-students and such. Sometimes you want to turn the chapter of the past and move on, and while email is anonymous, Facebook makes it easier to be traced. And that's great for those who like to stay in touch with old schoolmates etc, but for those of us who wish to close the chapter of what's been the "benefit" becomes a problem instead. So I rather give my email to those I want, rather than using Facebook or MySpace or Friendster or whatever ...PS: FB is evil as in: privacy is an illusion and your data are scanned by bots to use for commercial purposes. MySpace is even worse as it was bought by a Republican guy who now tries to push some Republican propaganda through people's mouth on MySpace. So these sites aren't as innocent as they appear.
Some people told me I could promote my writings with Facebook. I don't want that. I mean, it would be like bands singing how bad capitalism is, then to do whatever possible to sell as many merchandise through outlets they criticise in their songs. "Idealism of the lazy man" if you know what I mean. The day the profile sites get rid of these silly games and allow more anonimity I may give it a second chance. For now, email is still king for me
By the way, those who are keen on networking sites may know Adult Friend Finder? A colleague back in Ireland used it. I find the concept quite disgusting but well, he was an avid user and even paid for membership ... Quite a disgusting idea if you ask me, but then I am quite sure lot of people use FB or MySpace as well for dating purposes...
Raziel X
Member
Whatever dude... there is nothing on my site that I have a problem that omg someone might see it
I use whatever I can to promote my writings. I like to write, it is one of my fav things to do. But on the other hand I want more ppl to know about it and read it. I dont care that much about the money that could come with it. I care more about how those poems could help ppl who read them, help em become better ppl or stuff. I like to talk about stuff in them with ppl too, discuss them etc.
And dude, I found my fiancee on myspace game Heroes, she attacked me and I attacked her back
so shhhhh
Anyways, do you have a gmail account? If yea we can chat a bit through the chat there (my account is mirokizak@gmail.com)
I use whatever I can to promote my writings. I like to write, it is one of my fav things to do. But on the other hand I want more ppl to know about it and read it. I dont care that much about the money that could come with it. I care more about how those poems could help ppl who read them, help em become better ppl or stuff. I like to talk about stuff in them with ppl too, discuss them etc.
And dude, I found my fiancee on myspace game Heroes, she attacked me and I attacked her back
so shhhhh Anyways, do you have a gmail account? If yea we can chat a bit through the chat there (my account is mirokizak@gmail.com)
Postmodernist
Yachad el ha'or
Fussynating, Russian authorities banned ALL metal concerts and clubs at once city:
http://translate.google.com/transla...//lenta.ru/news/2010/05/20/heavy/&sl=ru&tl=en
For "spiritual safety reasons"
Russian official: "I'm clueless about all these music genres, but I was asked to stop satanic activities". So he bans all rock/metal music.
http://translate.google.com/transla...//lenta.ru/news/2010/05/20/heavy/&sl=ru&tl=en
For "spiritual safety reasons"
Russian official: "I'm clueless about all these music genres, but I was asked to stop satanic activities". So he bans all rock/metal music.
Corporal McDick
Sgt. 1st class
Hey guys,
A friend of mine has been doing some great stuff lately.
I hope you like it - Enjoy.
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A friend of mine has been doing some great stuff lately.
I hope you like it - Enjoy.
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Postmodernist
Yachad el ha'or
A new war in Middle East is planned?
http://translate.google.com/transla...hnii_vostok_obzor_ot_observer/2010-05-22-1259
http://translate.google.com/transla...hnii_vostok_obzor_ot_observer/2010-05-22-1259
Kenneth R.
Cináed
Postmodernist
Yachad el ha'or
Chanakya
Orphaned Brother
@Ananth: Thanks a lot for the Bilocate suggestion. I'm checking out some of their stuff right now, and, even though, as you said, there's a very mild dimension of "orientalism" in it, at least from what I've heard so far, they seem to have really nice piano parts/synths backgrounds.
And the reason why Orphaned Land or similar bands are not-so-easy to digest here in Romania is in fact a completely different one, if I managed to understand my friends' feelings right. Here we have this genre of music called "manele", which is mainly stuff of Turkish / Greek / Serbian inspiration, and when I say "inspiration" I don't only mean the style, but also quite a big part of the melodic line. To put it shortly, plagiarism.
I don't know if I made sense or this is just some sort of rant only I understand, knowing the situation, but I only wanted to clarify this issue a bit. So, even though it may sound weird, this kind of music isn't too popular here not because of the fact it's too "different", to call it so, but exactly because of how often we come across it and how awfully the local musicians exploit it. Which, in my opinion, is such a sad thing, cause it makes people miss so much substance and emotion and a range of sonorities that you can't really find in any other music. Of course it depends on each person and their tastes, but it's a pity they're neglecting it because of "side aspects", and not the music itself.
Luckily, over here [India], we don't have that problem. A lot of people don't mind elements from traditional cultures incorporated into the music. Though there are a few purists who tend to slander everything by calling it "belly dance" music. Do you have any fine example of this Manele? I'm sort of intrigued
You should check this out. They incorporate many different sounds and sort of weave a nice texture, sonically. They use didjeridoos, traditional chimes/bells and sitar-simulating acoustic guitars. I wish I could get a better performance though.
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StoneWoman
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@Ananth: Well yes, we don't generally mind traditional influences, except when they come from the oriental area. But, again, the only reason is the existence of this "manele" genre. Before them becoming as popular as they are now (for the "lower" levels of the society, especially, because of the stupid lyrics, bad quality of the backing tracks/instrumentals and musical cliches), there was no problem with oriental music. In fact, I remember Greek music was actually rather appreciated.
And here is an example of the 'prettier' sort of manele, as in, it's not about chicks, for a change.
And the song in the video you posted is so pleasant to listen to. I really like slow-ish and atmospheric songs using the same Eastern influences. It's actually rather sad to see that most people think that oriental music is all about being upbeat, having fast and repetitive rhythmic formulas and lots of musical adornments. This song you posted shows how you can obtain the most "authentic" effects even without these main elements. Thank you.
But, again, the only reason is the existence of this "manele" genre. Before them becoming as popular as they are now (for the "lower" levels of the society, especially, because of the stupid lyrics, bad quality of the backing tracks/instrumentals and musical cliches), there was no problem with oriental music. In fact, I remember Greek music was actually rather appreciated.And here is an example of the 'prettier' sort of manele, as in, it's not about chicks, for a change.
And the song in the video you posted is so pleasant to listen to. I really like slow-ish and atmospheric songs using the same Eastern influences. It's actually rather sad to see that most people think that oriental music is all about being upbeat, having fast and repetitive rhythmic formulas and lots of musical adornments. This song you posted shows how you can obtain the most "authentic" effects even without these main elements. Thank you.
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Chanakya
Orphaned Brother
FiveString
Fly on Little Wing
Now I know why you don't like that music
How's it hangin,' Ananth? I'm back shootin' in the air, screechin' "yeehah" and everything. Don't worry for a minute.
Hey, metalheads. It's been a while since I graced this forum with my radiant presence. See, I was in prison--maximum security!
Gotcha: Nah. My house just flooded, but it got better.
Nice to be back. I'm finally getting to enjoy my new OL you-name-it (I bought everything in sight).
See y'all.
Chanakya
Orphaned Brother
Hey Hill, it was more fun when you were active around here! I haven't had much time to post around here too, moving from country to country and all that. But that will soon change.
My dream came true and I'm still very excited about that.
My dream came true and I'm still very excited about that.
FiveString
Fly on Little Wing
Country to country...sounds like you're starting a whole new chapter.
Man, same here. But I'm in the same country. It's just enormous, so it feels like I've moved to another country. But I'm used to that.
I, too, miss those innocent days of pre-moving fun.
Man, same here. But I'm in the same country. It's just enormous, so it feels like I've moved to another country. But I'm used to that.
I, too, miss those innocent days of pre-moving fun.
It seems people here in the forum have in common that they live in various countries during their life. Either that, or they have 'mixed' background. From my point of view this has to do with being educated, also with feeling at home in many places because you open yourself to the world.
And Ananth had perfect timing of course, it made it possible for him to go and see an Orphaned Land show. I wanted to add 'finally' to that, but actually it was not that long a wait for him. Myself, I waited 11 years before I saw them for the first time. But the world has become a much smaller place since then, plane tickets cheaper and Orphaned Land a whole lot more known. [take your pick]
It might seem strange to an outsider, but I really miss talking to you guys here in the forum. You have become like family a bit and it is almost like I can hear your voice when I read you posts. So doc [5string] what's your verdict for me then?
And Ananth had perfect timing of course, it made it possible for him to go and see an Orphaned Land show. I wanted to add 'finally' to that, but actually it was not that long a wait for him. Myself, I waited 11 years before I saw them for the first time. But the world has become a much smaller place since then, plane tickets cheaper and Orphaned Land a whole lot more known. [take your pick]
It might seem strange to an outsider, but I really miss talking to you guys here in the forum. You have become like family a bit and it is almost like I can hear your voice when I read you posts. So doc [5string] what's your verdict for me then?
FiveString
Fly on Little Wing
The antidote to fear of the "other" is interacting with her/him, no, beyond that--immersing yourself in the culture. You're right; those of us who get the OL Gospel have done a lot of living outside the various boxes our respective cultures tend to downright enforce, sometimes with actual laws, terrifying, pin-headed, narrow-minded, genocidal-in-potential laws. As for the "take your pick," I pick them all.
No, Morticia NL., you are not schizophrenic. You refuse to join the sheeple and you're also creative with words (and silk!). It's okay to be intelligent. Well, in the US it ain't, y'all n' stuff....
Postmodernist
Yachad el ha'or
Some impressions from post-Soviet Ukraine so far
Hehe, I first went to Warsaw, and the city is as impressive and sweet as Stockholm, only very inexpensive comparing to Scandinavia. Then I went to Kiev (for the first time in my life) and to Odessa, and well, I do have a severe cultural shock now from what I'm seeing there.
Well, I could put here some pictures of roads in the center of Kiev which look like moon surface and some pictures of Odessa looking like post-nuclear Apocalypse suburbs - ones where you can get extra experience hunting rats in Fallout 2.
As for Russian-Ukrainian tensions, I witnessed [and faced] generalized hate towards any foreigners in Central Russia (Kaluga), but so far Ukraine looks less xenophobic - Ukraine might be somewhat xenophobic in attitudes but rarely in action in contrast to Russia imho.
Well, my opinion is that there are no differences b/w Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Polish etc. what so ever.
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Russians=Poles=Ukrainians =60%Hungarians =60%Tajiks =60%Kyrgyzs =25%Icelanders = Siberia Descendants
[in fact all Homo Sapiens are 99.9% identical to each other]
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... Genetic studies show that modern Russians do not differ significantly from Poles or Ukrainians.
(Wiki; all scientific sources specified)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_(ethnicity)
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The descent of the Kyrgyz from the autochthonous Siberian population is confirmed by genetic studies.[13] Remarkably, 63% of modern Kyrgyz men share Haplogroup R1a1 (Y-DNA) with Tajiks (64%), Ukrainians (54%), Poles (~60%), Hungarians (30%) and even Icelanders (25%). Low diversity of Kyrgyz R1a1 indicates a founder effect within the historical period.[14] Haplogroup R1a1 (Y-DNA) is often believed to be a marker of the Proto-Indo-European language [15] speakers.
(Wiki; all scientific sources specified)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyz
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Any differences might be result of terrible circumstances and poverty people face because of their goivernments's endless corruption and total incompetence, plus evil ideologies of hate spreading for political reasons.
As for russophobia in Ukraine, I believe it mostly exists in its Western regions, since absolute majority of Ukraine's Center, East and South seems to be speaking mostly Russian language, or surjik the simple mix of Ukrainian and Russian.
AFAIK, the previous nationalist pro-USA gov't of Ukraine used to build anti-Russian discourses and at the same time Putin would spread anti-Ukrainian discourses,
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however the current [stupid asshole w/ mafia background] gov't is very pro-Russian, so the peoples are once again directed to become less xenophobic.
UPD: Today I spotted several tags of sXe (straightedge = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge) on walls of a primary school in Odessa - and being a straightedger myself I was glad to see these signs, however the alarming thing was neo-nazi tags next to them - NSWP (standing for "national-socialist white power" aka nazi boneheads). Fcuk, Odessa has a short memory of how many Ukrainians the nazis killed in Ukraine.
Also, in Kiev and in Odessa I spotted signs in Russian "Stay Russian!" and "For slavic unity!". Interesting.
Last weekends a nazi party also passed to Swedish parliament for the first time ever:
http://www.uta.fi/laitokset/politiikka/opiskelu/VALTA1_VALTS1_Arter_5.pdf
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2020349,00.html
PS: Just spotted more nazi signs "Antifa bitches". Also saw dead and decaying (for minimum one week) stray cat and dog in one street on Odessa periphery - the cat near a primary school and the dog right in front of "Christ's Love" sect church building. I should take a picture of them - that would be perfectly trashy shots, only the smell of decay is untolerable so it's difficult to approach them. And noone around seems to care about disposing the bodies. A post-Apocalypse society, indeed.
Hehe, I first went to Warsaw, and the city is as impressive and sweet as Stockholm, only very inexpensive comparing to Scandinavia. Then I went to Kiev (for the first time in my life) and to Odessa, and well, I do have a severe cultural shock now from what I'm seeing there.
Well, I could put here some pictures of roads in the center of Kiev which look like moon surface and some pictures of Odessa looking like post-nuclear Apocalypse suburbs - ones where you can get extra experience hunting rats in Fallout 2.
As for Russian-Ukrainian tensions, I witnessed [and faced] generalized hate towards any foreigners in Central Russia (Kaluga), but so far Ukraine looks less xenophobic - Ukraine might be somewhat xenophobic in attitudes but rarely in action in contrast to Russia imho.
Well, my opinion is that there are no differences b/w Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Polish etc. what so ever.
(click to show/hide)
Russians=Poles=Ukrainians =60%Hungarians =60%Tajiks =60%Kyrgyzs =25%Icelanders = Siberia Descendants
[in fact all Homo Sapiens are 99.9% identical to each other]
>>
... Genetic studies show that modern Russians do not differ significantly from Poles or Ukrainians.
(Wiki; all scientific sources specified)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_(ethnicity)
>>
+
>>
The descent of the Kyrgyz from the autochthonous Siberian population is confirmed by genetic studies.[13] Remarkably, 63% of modern Kyrgyz men share Haplogroup R1a1 (Y-DNA) with Tajiks (64%), Ukrainians (54%), Poles (~60%), Hungarians (30%) and even Icelanders (25%). Low diversity of Kyrgyz R1a1 indicates a founder effect within the historical period.[14] Haplogroup R1a1 (Y-DNA) is often believed to be a marker of the Proto-Indo-European language [15] speakers.
(Wiki; all scientific sources specified)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyz
>>
Any differences might be result of terrible circumstances and poverty people face because of their goivernments's endless corruption and total incompetence, plus evil ideologies of hate spreading for political reasons.
As for russophobia in Ukraine, I believe it mostly exists in its Western regions, since absolute majority of Ukraine's Center, East and South seems to be speaking mostly Russian language, or surjik the simple mix of Ukrainian and Russian.
AFAIK, the previous nationalist pro-USA gov't of Ukraine used to build anti-Russian discourses and at the same time Putin would spread anti-Ukrainian discourses,
(click to show/hide)
however the current [stupid asshole w/ mafia background] gov't is very pro-Russian, so the peoples are once again directed to become less xenophobic.
UPD: Today I spotted several tags of sXe (straightedge = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge) on walls of a primary school in Odessa - and being a straightedger myself I was glad to see these signs, however the alarming thing was neo-nazi tags next to them - NSWP (standing for "national-socialist white power" aka nazi boneheads). Fcuk, Odessa has a short memory of how many Ukrainians the nazis killed in Ukraine.
Also, in Kiev and in Odessa I spotted signs in Russian "Stay Russian!" and "For slavic unity!". Interesting.
Last weekends a nazi party also passed to Swedish parliament for the first time ever:
http://www.uta.fi/laitokset/politiikka/opiskelu/VALTA1_VALTS1_Arter_5.pdf
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2020349,00.html
PS: Just spotted more nazi signs "Antifa bitches". Also saw dead and decaying (for minimum one week) stray cat and dog in one street on Odessa periphery - the cat near a primary school and the dog right in front of "Christ's Love" sect church building. I should take a picture of them - that would be perfectly trashy shots, only the smell of decay is untolerable so it's difficult to approach them. And noone around seems to care about disposing the bodies. A post-Apocalypse society, indeed.
Anton, your account of what you see around while traveling over there gives me the chills- and not in a good way. Traveling regularly I'm often disappointed that when traveling you seem to only scratch the surface of a society [unless Israel, where we really mingle with locals] but reading your story I would say that in some cases I'm happy to only scratch the surface.
Still this is all mighty interesting material, as it is coming from you and not some newspaper column.
Still this is all mighty interesting material, as it is coming from you and not some newspaper column.
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