The potential of Opeth calling it quits

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How old is Peter? Tons of bands are older than Opeth and still put out albums regularly. They would surely just stop touring and concentrate on albums, Beatles style.
Where the fuck's the new album, that's what I want to know?!
Sknight has a point though, Moonlapse. Obviously you're a fan and want to state your opinions like anyone else, but you are in a position where rumours can be started due to your posts.
 
Stormwatch said:
How old is Peter? Tons of bands are older than Opeth and still put out albums regularly. They would surely just stop touring and concentrate on albums, Beatles style.
Where the fuck's the new album, that's what I want to know?!
Sknight has a point though, Moonlapse. Obviously you're a fan and want to state your opinions like anyone else, but you are in a position where rumours can be started due to your posts.

Agreed. Willie Nelson has to be getting near 300, and he's still touring
 
moonlapse, it's a valid question. the life expectancy of a death metal band isn't very long. just look at some of the bands you guys listen to and are talking about in this thread. how long did they last? 10 years maybe? then there's guys like Rush, who are in their late 40s. They tour only every few years but when they do, they tour like motherfuckers. three hour sets in front of huge audiences. so, really, who knows? i would think the guys need some steady income and opeth are at their most popular. Now would not be the time to start slowing down.
I wonder if some of you guys think that being married and in your 30s is a death sentence. I know that some of you guys are still in your teens, but, for gods sake, stop thinking married and 30 is the end of the world!
 
Stormwatch said:
Sknight has a point though, Moonlapse. Obviously you're a fan and want to state your opinions like anyone else, but you are in a position where rumours can be started due to your posts.
disagreed. moonlapse doesnt live in mikes basement! no one here is taking anything anyone else says as gospel. i find it disturbing that sknight sent emails over moonlapses head regarding some of the topics here. doesnt anyone find that the least bit ridiculous?
 
dorian gray said:
disagreed. moonlapse doesnt live in mikes basement! no one here is taking anything anyone else says as gospel. i find it disturbing that sknight sent emails over moonlapses head regarding some of the topics here. doesnt anyone find that the least bit ridiculous?
Because Moonlapse was not taking on his responsibility as the board moderator. Instead, he was perpetuating threads that can be *easily* misinterpreted and spread.

I went over moonlapse's head because I called for an end to the thread many times and he continued speaking his mind in a scope that was off topic, as well as easy to misinterpret by anyone looking to create a story. A metal band being "racist" is a big deal and can have very negative consequences. The site owner agreed the thread was getting out of hand and sent a message to Moonlapse to close the thread because he didn't want words being put into Opeth's mouth, as well as ruining relations with them. The attacks were way off topic and he agreed. If Moonlapse wasn't going to close the threads, the site owner was prepared to do it himself.
 
sknight: touche! as much as I like moonlapse, I will admit he's pretty darn inconsistent and I've said as much before. I've also delved into the possibility of slander and libel but everyone laughed and said I was dumb. In previous "racist" threads, Mike himself posted and I believe his words were "bring it on".
As far as something like this having "negative consequences", I highly doubt the ten people that post here are staff writers for Newsweek. Not only that, we ARE talking about a death metal band. The genre isn't usually associated with love and kindness. Last time I heard, it was about DEATH.
 
You can sleep on your both ears, like many bands Opeth is smart enough to say EVERY time they get associated with "statements" that they don't have that kind of statements. That's the only way to get the desired effect when some stupid would write an offensive article about the so-called statements: everyone (or at least their fans, other people won't care at all) would just say wahahaha...

I hope this makes clear why I personally think that that thread was not dangerous at all (and what I was thinking when I said "we're no stupid americans").
 
atilla000 said:
You can sleep on your both ears, like many bands Opeth is smart enough to say EVERY time they get associated with "statements" that they don't have that kind of statements. That's the only way to get the desired effect when some stupid would write an offensive article about the so-called statements: everyone (or at least their fans, other people won't care at all) would just say wahahaha...

I hope this makes clear why I personally think that that thread was not dangerous at all (and what I was thinking when I said "we're no stupid americans").

Speak for yourself. I am a stupid American.
 
3 more albums/cd's would be nice but I really want to see them live one more time.
I hope the record company that signs them is from the states and will bring the boys over for a full US tour. Not just big cities like Chicago and New York, I want to see them in St. Louis or Memphis or Nashville or even Indianapolis. And for Jinn, they must hit three or four towns in Texas!
 
dorian gray said:
sknight: touche! as much as I like moonlapse, I will admit he's pretty darn inconsistent and I've said as much before. I've also delved into the possibility of slander and libel but everyone laughed and said I was dumb. In previous "racist" threads, Mike himself posted and I believe his words were "bring it on".
As far as something like this having "negative consequences", I highly doubt the ten people that post here are staff writers for Newsweek. Not only that, we ARE talking about a death metal band. The genre isn't usually associated with love and kindness. Last time I heard, it was about DEATH.
It's the rumor mill amongst the fans that can spread. Additionally, we don't know who is reading these boards. I can tell you for a fact that there are industry people who look at boards like this to see what kind of bands are out there and how much interest they have. The potential for a band being misinterpreted as racist can have negative consequences, since the industry is only about money and recovering the investment, or the risk and if it's worth it.

Also, don't forget the posts were taking a very racial and personal turn, totally out of line with the topic of Opeth.
 
agreed sknight. but, how boring could it possibly be to surf these boards in search of marketing material? yet, still, i would imagine a death metal band with anything negative to say about anything would benefit in some obscure way. just look at the comments in the other thread about "religious" people. we're not talking rocket scientists here are we?

...and yes, this is supposed to be an opeth-only forum.
 
sknight said:
I just find it funny that the moderator of the Opeth board puts out posts like this, sending out rumors of an inevitable break up, as well as perpetuating threads that relate the band to racism, in rumor, of course.

Perhaps an email to the band informing them of this is in order, since it took an email to this site's owner to get moonlapse to stop perpetuating the racism thread.

In any event, until the band starts pointing to a break up, they are not breaking up because they are older, married, fathers, etc. That's mere trolling until you hear those points from the band.
Oh I get it now, since I'm the moderator of this forum, I'm not allowed to speculate on the band's future, much as has been many times in the past, without complaint, mind you.

I'm not spreading any rumours. Where do you get this from? Is there an invisible footnote on my initial post that I'm unaware of? This thread is mere conjecture, and it's a topic that's been worrying me more and more as of late.

The racism thread was a valid discussion towards the end. It's a given that associating Opeth with racism is ludicrous, and I honestly feel sorry for the folk that wanted the thread closed because they felt it offended someone. It sort of reminds me of those Christian Fundamentalists who want new movie releases banned for superfluous reasons.

Dorian made a point before. Mike actually did come on here and say something along the lines of 'bring it on' because he felt it was humorous to see the sort of bullshit people make up about Opeth. It was a discussion for fans... it hardly hurts Opeth's market for potential new labels, and I really *really* doubt it's making Mike and the guys cry themselves to sleep at night.

About 'trolling'... dude. Have you read through any internet slang dictionaries? How long have you been surfing forums? I'm speculating... based on bands before Opeth who have broken up under similar circumstances, or at the very least lost significant members. Who are you to try and discredit what I'm saying simply because there are no 'official' pointers?

Speaking of pointers, here's one to you. Band's don't release official statements saying 'oh yeah guys, we might be breaking up in 2 months... stay tuned'. Dysfunction happens privately and more often than not you'll hear about a band's break up on the day they do, or days after. They are hardly going to advertise the fact that they may openly.

I only found out here that you went over my head about the racism thread. But that's fine, if you feel you needed to, that's all the justification required. I will however *NOT* stand for this sort of slander. You seem to be trying to bring me and my position into disrepute, yet you have no idea of how long I've been here, how well entrenched I am with this community nor why I was elected moderator here in the first place.

@dorian: About the inconsistencies. I'm really sorry if you and many other people feel that way. But I really have to stress again that it's really hard to moderate a forum when not working under any concrete guidelines.

It's always possible to go back to how things were and I'll solidly delete anything unrelated to Opeth. You'll find it's alot more consistent when working under those sort of solid ground rules. But do any of us really want that?

Trialing this new system where we allow loosely off-topic material isn't very easy. Because who is to say what's 'loosely' off-topic and what's 'very' off-topic. But my policy right now is that I try not to touch any threads, as much as possible, giving people as much freedom as possible provided that their threads aren't directly slandering/trolling etc. etc.

If you guys want me to work under a concrete set of guidelines, like the ones stickied at the top of this forum, please I implore you to message MetalAges or Opeth.com and tell them to provide me with them. Right now I'm working off my own discretion, and judging by how much more brightened up the board has become since shedding the 'strictly off-topic' rule, I'd say I'm not doing as bad a job as some of you would make out.

For God's sake though, please don't slander me off to Opeth and Deron and try to discredit me because you have some sort of personal dilemma. I honestly can't stand that as a person, because it lacks integrity.

By the way, thanks for derailing the thread.
 
dorian gray said:
disagreed. moonlapse doesnt live in mikes basement! no one here is taking anything anyone else says as gospel. i find it disturbing that sknight sent emails over moonlapses head regarding some of the topics here. doesnt anyone find that the least bit ridiculous?
Thanks. I'll emphasize again for those who missed it that 'I DON'T LIVE IN MIKE'S BASEMENT'.

I have no idea what the band will choose to do with their careers and their lives. I'm merely speculating, not trying to propagate false rumours. I honestly doubt the word of one fan will make any industry people lose interest in Opeth. Opeth have years and years of hard-work, integrity and a huge musical catalogue to back themselves up. A bit of speculation ISN'T going to destroy all that.
 
Look at it this way, they have such a great catalog of albums and that is the real reason you care if they quit or not. While we're all waiting on the next album to come from Opeth, atleast if they did quit ,they would be leaving us with a near flawless career and would be legends. Maiden and Metallica are somewhat tarnishing their legacy by sticking around and releasing material that is inferior to their glory days, maybe Opeth realise their best is behind them.

Screw it, more Opeth damnit!
 
Yeah, I was wondering about that actually. I wonder if years after Opeth call it quits they'll be considered somewhat a legendary band in the metal industry. Emperor's 'Prometheus' left them a very nice legacy, and it will be interesting to see how Opeth go out.
 
It would be a real musical orgasm if they'd make a last album like Emperor did. But I prefer Opeth making some other really good albums first, because the better their albums are right now, the better their last one needs to be if they want to continue the Emperor tradition.
 
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