The what's going on in Thrash thread

[Slammed]

While I'm at it. Why in the world have they decided to wear matching shirts these last 10 years? So fuckin stupid.

So all the backstage crew and people checking passes know who they are

 

[Slammed]

Haha, years back I mentioned to a coworker who was casually familiar with metal that I saw Anthrax and he asked if they played Antisocial. It has become such a staple of their setlist. It is a shame too because the band seem capable of putting on a killer show. I saw Metallica at a festival a few years back and was disappointed they played a couple of covers, one of which was Turn the Page.

I tend to agree, it's not like these big bands need to play covers, and Metallica needs less Crabman and Hamster doodles, but so many of them do. Even bands like the Who and Stones etc play covers but the different with those sort of bands is that they aren't playing 40 mins set and playing the same covers they have been playing for 30 years. I don't mind the occasional cover, I also don't mind that Antisocial was a huge hit for Anthrax, but to play it at every gig for 30 odd years when they have so many other songs is pointless.

 

[redfly]

Haha, years back I mentioned to a coworker who was casually familiar with metal that I saw Anthrax and he asked if they played Antisocial. It has become such a staple of their setlist. It is a shame too because the band seem capable of putting on a killer show. I saw Metallica at a festival a few years back and was disappointed they played a couple of covers, one of which was Turn the Page.

Yeah they really just won't let go of it. They really could be on a great crushing show with just original material. It's a shame really. Lol, I wouldn't have been happy with turn the page either.

 

[redfly]

So all the backstage crew and people checking passes know who they are

Hahahaha....Hahahahaha.

 

[redfly]

I tend to agree, it's not like these big bands need to play covers, and Metallica needs less Crabman and Hamster doodles, but so many of them do. Even bands like the Who and Stones etc play covers but the different with those sort of bands is that they aren't playing 40 mins set and playing the same covers they have been playing for 30 years. I don't mind the occasional cover, I also don't mind that Antisocial was a huge hit for Anthrax, but to play it at every gig for 30 odd years when they have so many other songs is pointless.

To have two covers in such a short set is crazy.

 

[redfly]

Lol. Did you see the Tracii Guns article where he says he had an advance copy of The Black album in 1989? Is that even possible?
and then says this about Whiplash: it's the way the tempo is played, it's mistaken for kind of a punk edge. No girls name. It is a Punk edge. Choad.

 

[Slammed]

To have two covers in such a short set is crazy.

It's pub band territory!

 

[Slammed]

Lol. Did you see the Tracii Guns article where he says he had an advance copy of The Black album in 1989? Is that even possible?
and then says this about Whiplash: it's the way the tempo is played, it's mistaken for kind of a punk edge. No girls name. It is a Punk edge. Choad.

No I didn't. I suppose it is 'possible' but far less probable. There was no doubt advance copies somewhere, but why would Tracii get one? Was their even any real connection with Tracii and Metallica before the Black album? Even if he did get one, it's not really much to brag about now that everyone has a copy.

I have no idea what he means about Whiplash

 

[Slammed]

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/t...f-the-bay-strikes-back-tour-in-oakland-video/

Too many videos too post while I'm having breakfast.
All three bands sound great and the show looks pretty damn good.
WWIII is not my favourite new Testament song but it sounds great live.

 

[Neptune]

Cool thanks for the heads up!

 

[redfly]

No I didn't. I suppose it is 'possible' but far less probable. There was no doubt advance copies somewhere, but why would Tracii get one? Was their even any real connection with Tracii and Metallica before the Black album? Even if he did get one, it's not really much to brag about now that everyone has a copy.

I have no idea what he means about Whiplash

No, no real connection. It sounds like James was pretty hostile toward him lol. And doesn't even remember it ever happening. I thought Metallica was on tour that whole 89 for Justice.

 

[redfly]

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/t...f-the-bay-strikes-back-tour-in-oakland-video/

Too many videos too post while I'm having breakfast.
All three bands sound great and the show looks pretty damn good.
WWIII is not my favourite new Testament song but it sounds great live.

Nice. Gonna watch it in a bit!

 

[Slammed]

No, no real connection. It sounds like James was pretty hostile toward him lol. And doesn't even remember it ever happening. I thought Metallica was on tour that whole 89 for Justice.

Yeah the tour time seems to gel with what others are saying. I know they were here in 89 but that was early in the year, March maybe April, and often back then Australia, New Zealand and Japan were the final legs of tours, but I don't remember well enough to know if that's the case here.

 

[Slammed]

Nice. Gonna watch it in a bit!

There is a few shaky videos but it's not bad overall

 

[redfly]

I just started with WW3. I wanted to see how it came out. Not to shabby.

 

[Slammed]

Yeah I think they get a pass.

 

[Slammed]

Ok redfly I took on your challenge from a few weeks ago. I realise you didn't actually issue a challenge and that made it a lot easier for me to make up my own rules, but it's your fault anyway.

After talking about top thrash debuts I decided to give them a listen and judge them on their worth. Off the top, I'm not one of these anal people that analyses every single note, every single riff, and compares them to each other to decide where they'd fit the best. I'm also not one of these people who has to listen to an album 15 times while standing on my head in a corner and scratching my arse to judge it's viability. I listen to albums and I rate them on what I heard. With these albums, some may not be pure thrash, I simply looked at a few lists of 80's thrash debuts and started listening to albums. Each album I got off Youtube and where possible I tried to listen to the original rip. Again I'm not anal enough to listen to a YT video that says it's an original album but in fact it's a sub par record label re-release, but I did avoid links that said things like 'remastered'. I'm also not listing scores, or ratings and if anyone in the future wants to argue the system, the order or whether a band should or shouldn't be on the list I don't care. Although I might listen to something good if I have forgotten it.

Bottom line is. My list, my way, don't agree, fine!
Also I don't care how other people count and treat ties I do things my way, don't like it? You know where you can shove it.

Epic post to follow.

 

[Slammed]

1.
Slayer – Show No Mercy (1983)

2.
Dark Angel – We Have Arrived (1985)
Megadeth – Killing Is My Business (1985)
Exodus – Bonded By Blood (1985)

3.
Metallica - Kill Em All (1983)

4.
Kreator – Endless Pain (1985)

5.
Mortal Sin – Mayhemic Destruction (1986)
Anacrusis – Suffering Hour (1988)

6.
Viking – Do Or Die (1988)
Flotsam & Jetsam – Doomsday For The Deceiver (1986)
Testament – The Legacy (1987)

7.
Overkill – Feel The Fire (1985)

8.
Addictive – Pity Of Man (1989)
Hobb’s Angel Of Death – ST (1988)
Hydra Vein – Rather Death Than False Of Faith (1988)
Sodom – Obsessed By Cruelty (1986)

9.
Annihilator – Alice In Hell (1989)

10.
DRI – Dealing With It (1985)

11.
Nuclear Assault – Game Over (1986)
Tankard – Zombie Attack (1986)

12.
Sabbat – History Of A Time To Come (1988)
Slaughter – Strappado (1987)
Xentrix – Shattered Existence (1989)

13.
Atrophy – Socialized Hate (1988)
Death Angel – The Ultra Violence (1987)

14.
SOD – Speak English Or Die (1985)

15.
Sepultura – Morbid Visions (1986)

16.
Massive Appendage – The Severed Erection (1986)
Metal Church – Metal Church (1984)
Vengeance Rising – Human Sacrifice (1988)

17.
Vio-Lence – Eternal Nightmare (1988)

18.
Whiplash – Power And Pain (1986)
Sacred Reich – Ignorance (1987)

18.
Forbidden – Forbidden Evil (1988)
Razor – Executioner’s Song (1985)
Wrathchild America – Climbin’ The Walls (1989)

19.
Onslaught – Power From Hell (1985)

20.
Exumer – Possessed By Fire (1986)
Destruction – Infernal Overkill (1985)
Toxik – World Circus (1987)

21.
Paradox – Product Of Imagination (1987)

22.
Sadus – Illusions (1988)

23
EvilDead – Annihilation Of Civilization (1989)

24.
Heathen – Breaking The Silence (1987)

25.
Exciter – Heavy Metal Maniac (1982)

26.
Holy Moses – Queen Of Siam (1986)

27.
Anthrax – Fistful Of Metal (1984)

28.
Nasty Savage – ST (1985)

 

[redfly]

Ok redfly I took on your challenge from a few weeks ago. I realise you didn't actually issue a challenge and that made it a lot easier for me to make up my own rules, but it's your fault anyway.

After talking about top thrash debuts I decided to give them a listen and judge them on their worth. Off the top, I'm not one of these anal people that analyses every single note, every single riff, and compares them to each other to decide where they'd fit the best. I'm also not one of these people who has to listen to an album 15 times while standing on my head in a corner and scratching my arse to judge it's viability. I listen to albums and I rate them on what I heard. With these albums, some may not be pure thrash, I simply looked at a few lists of 80's thrash debuts and started listening to albums. Each album I got off Youtube and where possible I tried to listen to the original rip. Again I'm not anal enough to listen to a YT video that says it's an original album but in fact it's a sub par record label re-release, but I did avoid links that said things like 'remastered'. I'm also not listing scores, or ratings and if anyone in the future wants to argue the system, the order or whether a band should or shouldn't be on the list I don't care. Although I might listen to something good if I have forgotten it.

Bottom line is. My list, my way, don't agree, fine!
Also I don't care how other people count and treat ties I do things my way, don't like it? You know where you can shove it.

Epic post to follow.

I think that's so many disclaimers that I'm not even allowed to comment! . I haven't heard of all of those. but it's a pretty good list!

 

[Slammed]

You're allowed to comment but it wont change anything

The hard part is deciding what is and isn't thrash. Search for 80's thrash debuts and some of it borders on death and others border on just metal. There is quite a few bands I saw listed that I removed from the list because I didn't think they were thrash, but some on the list are definitely borderline.

I do have comments on each album which for me justified the scores I gave them. Others will judge differently and score differently and that's fine but that's the sort of thing fights are made of.

The one thing I will say is that it is worth taking time time to listen to most of the albums on the list given they are the albums that we so often refer to as 'old school' thrash. There is a lot of good memories on some, there is stuff you've never heard and there is some great moments of history that are worth knowing.