The what's going on in Thrash thread

[Slammed]

The government tells the school they can't force parents to buy from a particular store, free market and all that shit. However they don't stop the schools from getting kick backs from the store so therefore the schools go where they get the best kick backs. Once upon a time they used to support the local office supplies store, as opposed to the national chain store, things were still more expensive but parents were given the list and could shop anywhere. By making parents log on to get the list they are hoping people will get lazy and just order through the same company. It's a lazy tax (tax applied to those not willing to make an effort to save money), insurance companies here are the best at it, but it seems like everyone wants to give it a go now. But again, it's not forced because that's illegal, it's just harder and that's not illegal

The primary school actually orders all the stuff for us and gives it to the kids, but they also order from the local place, which they no doubt buy their stuff from all year round. The store the high school suggests we use is 2 hours away. Must be a hell of a kick back they are getting, or not getting from the like of us not lazy enough to play their game.

 

[zerostatic]

As a classroom teacher I am surprised that schools even ask parents to send their students to school prepared with supplies. Maybe it is years of teaching in ghetto schools but the last few years it seemed like the schools provided all learning materials.

 

[redfly]

The government tells the school they can't force parents to buy from a particular store, free market and all that shit. However they don't stop the schools from getting kick backs from the store so therefore the schools go where they get the best kick backs. Once upon a time they used to support the local office supplies store, as opposed to the national chain store, things were still more expensive but parents were given the list and could shop anywhere. By making parents log on to get the list they are hoping people will get lazy and just order through the same company. It's a lazy tax (tax applied to those not willing to make an effort to save money), insurance companies here are the best at it, but it seems like everyone wants to give it a go now. But again, it's not forced because that's illegal, it's just harder and that's not illegal

The primary school actually orders all the stuff for us and gives it to the kids, but they also order from the local place, which they no doubt buy their stuff from all year round. The store the high school suggests we use is 2 hours away. Must be a hell of a kick back they are getting, or not getting from the like of us not lazy enough to play their game.

Well that's my headache for the day! . Good lord man.

 

[redfly]

As a classroom teacher I am surprised that schools even ask parents to send their students to school prepared with supplies. Maybe it is years of teaching in ghetto schools but the last few years it seemed like the schools provided all learning materials.

Oh no kidding. I'd say more than half my family are teachers. I'll have to ask how it is for them.

 

[Slammed]

As a classroom teacher I am surprised that schools even ask parents to send their students to school prepared with supplies. Maybe it is years of teaching in ghetto schools but the last few years it seemed like the schools provided all learning materials.

Our primary schools are more likely to do that because they don't use a lot of resources. New covid rules means the kids get given more things because they aren't supposed to share even coloured pencils, but the schools still supply it. In high school it's always been a case of parents pay for books here. Things aren't as bad as they used to be when I was at school and text books were $60 each and I needed 7 different books a week, these days text books are all online and it's only really paper to write on and pens that parents need to provide.

Although these days while kids don't need text books all high school kids in the country are required to have a laptop or iPad. Some private school require it for kids as young as 7. Like books they can't dictate where parents buy laptops but they do try and pressure parents into buying the over priced school ones by saying that support wont be offered. But what they don't tell parents is that buying school laptops means that when the kid leaves school the laptop (Windows) is still licensed to the school, not the student, therefore the software expires and they need to purchase a new laptop or copy of Windows.

It's another one of those things like "free health care" that many think Australia does well, "Free Education" comes at a cost that many don't realise until they get involved.

 

[Slammed]

Well that's my headache for the day! . Good lord man.

I'll give you another one today if you like. My order arrived yesterday so now I've got 3 dash cams to install and I'll be happy for volunteers offering to get under the car and run some cables for me

 

[Slammed]

Oh no kidding. I'd say more than half my family are teachers. I'll have to ask how it is for them.

My mum's cousin was a teacher at my school when I was between 5 and 9, it was the worst 4 years of my life. I never had her as a teacher but every time I got in the slightest bit of trouble I was sent to her room because the teachers knew she'd tell my mother.

 

[redfly]

I'll give you another one today if you like. My order arrived yesterday so now I've got 3 dash cams to install and I'll be happy for volunteers offering to get under the car and run some cables for me

All that and still no new Exodus!

 

[redfly]

My mum's cousin was a teacher at my school when I was between 5 and 9, it was the worst 4 years of my life. I never had her as a teacher but every time I got in the slightest bit of trouble I was sent to her room because the teachers knew she'd tell my mother.

Oh that sucks! Lol what a kick in the teeth .

 

[Slammed]

All that and still no new Exodus!

I haven't checked every store yet, only the local, but no Exodus, no BLS, no Death Angel and no reasons.

 

[Slammed]

Oh that sucks! Lol what a kick in the teeth .

Especially since in my mum's words i was a 'trouble maker'!!

 

[redfly]

I haven't checked every store yet, only the local, but no Exodus, no BLS, no Death Angel and no reasons.

Holy crap! Not cool!

 

[redfly]

Especially since in my mum's words i was a 'trouble maker'!!

Nah, I can't see that at all!

 

[Slammed]

Holy crap! Not cool!

Yeah it's weird. I suppose if I looked hard enough I might be able to find an excuse, but right now I'm just listening to it on Spotify. I noticed yesterday that Exodus are saying the new album in number 7 or something on the download/streaming lists, I guess that's not surprising if Australia is anything to go by.

 

[Slammed]

Nah, I can't see that at all!

My mum was forever saying it. I'm sure I just lived up to her words

 

[zerostatic]

Our primary schools are more likely to do that because they don't use a lot of resources. New covid rules means the kids get given more things because they aren't supposed to share even coloured pencils, but the schools still supply it. In high school it's always been a case of parents pay for books here. Things aren't as bad as they used to be when I was at school and text books were $60 each and I needed 7 different books a week, these days text books are all online and it's only really paper to write on and pens that parents need to provide.

Although these days while kids don't need text books all high school kids in the country are required to have a laptop or iPad. Some private school require it for kids as young as 7. Like books they can't dictate where parents buy laptops but they do try and pressure parents into buying the over priced school ones by saying that support wont be offered. But what they don't tell parents is that buying school laptops means that when the kid leaves school the laptop (Windows) is still licensed to the school, not the student, therefore the software expires and they need to purchase a new laptop or copy of Windows.

It's another one of those things like "free health care" that many think Australia does well, "Free Education" comes at a cost that many don't realise until they get involved.

"Free Education" or "Free health care" isn't really free, someone is paying for it! haha

After the madness of covid last year I secured a position at an online school for this year. The school was open before covid and did a true online learning experience. Live lessons 1 day a week and the rest of the week was independent work time. It used to be exclusive in that students or parents had to provide a computer capable of handling the learning management system and all of its tech requirements. Students performed or they were forced back into the face-to-face school.

Sadly, the school district caved to pressure from the parents and opened enrollment to every dumbass who didn't want to return to traditional school. Enrollment increased from 400 last year to over 8000 this year! The number of students with special needs also meant the school had to redo schedules and teachers have to offer multiple live lessons a week. I teach grade 8 World History and have over 250 students in 4 classes. I would say only 30% of the students do the assignments(Thankfully? I can't imagine the work if everyone was actually doing the work). Another 30% show up but don't do anything, and god knows where the rest of them are and what they are doing.

My students abilities range from gifted and talented to illiterate. Now it is nearing the end of the semester and some fools who I haven't seen in months are asking what they can do to pass.

 

[redfly]

Yeah it's weird. I suppose if I looked hard enough I might be able to find an excuse, but right now I'm just listening to it on Spotify. I noticed yesterday that Exodus are saying the new album in number 7 or something on the download/streaming lists, I guess that's not surprising if Australia is anything to go by.

Yeah you guys don't have a lot of good options right now.

 

[redfly]

"Free Education" or "Free health care" isn't really free, someone is paying for it! haha

After the madness of covid last year I secured a position at an online school for this year. The school was open before covid and did a true online learning experience. Live lessons 1 day a week and the rest of the week was independent work time. It used to be exclusive in that students or parents had to provide a computer capable of handling the learning management system and all of its tech requirements. Students performed or they were forced back into the face-to-face school.

Sadly, the school district caved to pressure from the parents and opened enrollment to every dumbass who didn't want to return to traditional school. Enrollment increased from 400 last year to over 8000 this year! The number of students with special needs also meant the school had to redo schedules and teachers have to offer multiple live lessons a week. I teach grade 8 World History and have over 250 students in 4 classes. I would say only 30% of the students do the assignments(Thankfully? I can't imagine the work if everyone was actually doing the work). Another 30% show up but don't do anything, and god knows where the rest of them are and what they are doing.

My students abilities range from gifted and talented to illiterate. Now it is nearing the end of the semester and some fools who I haven't seen in months are asking what they can do to pass.

Wow. Talk about an increase! That is crazy.

Haha. Hmm. I wonder if those are still some the kids that I knew in school

 

[Slammed]

"Free Education" or "Free health care" isn't really free, someone is paying for it! haha

After the madness of covid last year I secured a position at an online school for this year. The school was open before covid and did a true online learning experience. Live lessons 1 day a week and the rest of the week was independent work time. It used to be exclusive in that students or parents had to provide a computer capable of handling the learning management system and all of its tech requirements. Students performed or they were forced back into the face-to-face school.

Sadly, the school district caved to pressure from the parents and opened enrollment to every dumbass who didn't want to return to traditional school. Enrollment increased from 400 last year to over 8000 this year! The number of students with special needs also meant the school had to redo schedules and teachers have to offer multiple live lessons a week. I teach grade 8 World History and have over 250 students in 4 classes. I would say only 30% of the students do the assignments(Thankfully? I can't imagine the work if everyone was actually doing the work). Another 30% show up but don't do anything, and god knows where the rest of them are and what they are doing.

My students abilities range from gifted and talented to illiterate. Now it is nearing the end of the semester and some fools who I haven't seen in months are asking what they can do to pass.

In this state because of covid schools have seen a downturn in students returning for the last weeks of the year. Our last term started about 6 weeks ago, we started the final term of the year with less than 50% of students on site, the rest home schooling, then the second week they got up to about 50%, then the third week it was about 80% and the fourth week 100%, but in that time nearly every school in the area was shut at least once for covid cleaning and contact tracing. Because of that about 10% of parents have decided not to send their kids back at all, they've asked for home schooling subjects but the schools have said no, unless the school is closed, which to me is fair, but these parents still think the risk is too great.

We've had a thing in Australia called School Of The Air, which has run school classes for kids in remote areas of the country via CB radio, for something like 80 years. They've got kids who have never seen a school building, barely even see other people because their closest neighbours are hours away. They've managed to teach via radio, and now satellite internet, for at least 2 generations, yet throw a fucking pandemic at the system and it collapses with school closures and the inability to continue teaching to the same level as is expected.

 

[Slammed]

Yeah you guys don't have a lot of good options right now.

It's odd because it's not a shipping issue, even if crap from the US is still a bit slow stuff from the rest of the world is getting here within a reasonable time frame. I know there is a world wide shortage of vinyl, but as to what they think is stopping cd's and mainly metal cds is beyond me.