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Fuck table wine 
89 and 90 rated wines are everywhere to be had for NO MORE THAN $10, and many 89s at $6 and $7.
89 and 90 rated wines are everywhere to be had for NO MORE THAN $10, and many 89s at $6 and $7.
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Dear Odin no.
Consumer Reports:
In blind taste tests, our testers judged the canned wine acceptable yet undistinguished, tasting of generic fruit and with soda-pop-like bubbles. When the canned wine was poured into glasses and the testers swirled it in their mouths, they said it tasted better. Wine is, after all, meant to be savored, not sucked through a straw.
Bottom line: A glass of wine beats a can. For those places where a wine bottle isn’t appropriate, though, canned wine may be an option.
Screw that.
Consumer Reports:
In blind taste tests, our testers judged the canned wine acceptable yet undistinguished, tasting of generic fruit and with soda-pop-like bubbles. When the canned wine was poured into glasses and the testers swirled it in their mouths, they said it tasted better. Wine is, after all, meant to be savored, not sucked through a straw.
Bottom line: A glass of wine beats a can. For those places where a wine bottle isn’t appropriate, though, canned wine may be an option.
Screw that.
Chromatose
Squid pro quo
Grab yourself a can of pork soda
You'll be feeling just fine.
Ain't nothin' quite like sittin' 'round the house
Swillin' down them cans of swine.
You'll be feeling just fine.
Ain't nothin' quite like sittin' 'round the house
Swillin' down them cans of swine.
Kiss The Void
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mirrasou riesling is probably my favorite.
i also like pinot noirs.
wild horse is just a good winery in general but their orange muscat is really good.
i also like pinot noirs.
wild horse is just a good winery in general but their orange muscat is really good.
Dead Winter
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I have no idea the label of wine. Around here, if it isn't made at home, you just choose the type. Cabernets, Pinots, and Merlots for the reds and, well, that's about it. Don't really dig the whites. In Italy, wine is wine. No one really cares exactly what type it is, just how it tastes and if it's red or white according to the food. You don't even tell them to bring you a specific bottle; you just say, "vino rosso" or "vino bianco" and they take care of it for you. Very rarely would you ever ask for anything besides the house red or house white. A $20 bottle of wine in the states is a $5 bottle here. No one pays lots of money for it because they can just make it at home. They pay more attention to which kind and where it's from rather than the label. There are very few wine nerds because wine is like water here. However, everyone I know really enjoys the California wines for their smoothness. They're robust and full-flavored but go down quite smoothly. Our wines here can be quite strong sometimes.
As far as sweet dessert wines go, Ramandolo is made here in Friuli and is the best sweet wine you'll ever taste. It's like a cross between honey mead and prosecco, only without the carbonation.
A brief but quite accurate description:
"In the hilly area above Nimis, which eventually joins the Julian Alps, there is an enological area which is probably the oldest and best-known in all of Friuli: the Ramandolo, which extends all the way to Sedilis, near Tarcento. Its vineyards are situated at 1,250 feet above sea level and dominate a landscape of enchanting beauty. The slopes are so steep that no machinery can be used there: grapes are still grown and picked using age-old systems that are the same as those used at the time of Pope Gregory XII, when the Ramandolo was on the list of the wines served at the Council of 1409.
This wine is obtained from a local clone of Verduzzo Friulano called Ramandolo after this very area. This is a very special white dessert wine that is elegant, fragrant, full-bodied, not-too-sweet, and slightly tannic - all characteristics that are enhanced when the vintage is delayed and the grapes are allowed to dry a little.
Ramandolo is perhaps the wine that best represents the soul of its people, who are genuine, sometimes coarse but hospitable (translation: we swear a lot, drink a lot, and fuck a lot, but we're good people), generous, drenched in an ancient culture, and in love with their land. Ramandolo is a fascinating wine thanks to its equilibrium between tannin, acidity and sweetness. It is an ancient gold yellow color and has a bouquet of dried apricot and chestnut honey. It is the ideal wine for meditation and contemplation, but can also be matched with the typical produce of Friuli: the Prosciutto San Daniele, a ripe Montasio cheese, salami of Nimis, and smoked trout."
Boo-ya bitches:
If you ever get your hands on this stuff, take it and run. It's made only in Friuli and exported only from Friuli. It's a great after-dinner drink.
As far as sweet dessert wines go, Ramandolo is made here in Friuli and is the best sweet wine you'll ever taste. It's like a cross between honey mead and prosecco, only without the carbonation.
A brief but quite accurate description:
"In the hilly area above Nimis, which eventually joins the Julian Alps, there is an enological area which is probably the oldest and best-known in all of Friuli: the Ramandolo, which extends all the way to Sedilis, near Tarcento. Its vineyards are situated at 1,250 feet above sea level and dominate a landscape of enchanting beauty. The slopes are so steep that no machinery can be used there: grapes are still grown and picked using age-old systems that are the same as those used at the time of Pope Gregory XII, when the Ramandolo was on the list of the wines served at the Council of 1409.
This wine is obtained from a local clone of Verduzzo Friulano called Ramandolo after this very area. This is a very special white dessert wine that is elegant, fragrant, full-bodied, not-too-sweet, and slightly tannic - all characteristics that are enhanced when the vintage is delayed and the grapes are allowed to dry a little.
Ramandolo is perhaps the wine that best represents the soul of its people, who are genuine, sometimes coarse but hospitable (translation: we swear a lot, drink a lot, and fuck a lot, but we're good people), generous, drenched in an ancient culture, and in love with their land. Ramandolo is a fascinating wine thanks to its equilibrium between tannin, acidity and sweetness. It is an ancient gold yellow color and has a bouquet of dried apricot and chestnut honey. It is the ideal wine for meditation and contemplation, but can also be matched with the typical produce of Friuli: the Prosciutto San Daniele, a ripe Montasio cheese, salami of Nimis, and smoked trout."
Boo-ya bitches:
If you ever get your hands on this stuff, take it and run. It's made only in Friuli and exported only from Friuli. It's a great after-dinner drink.
Dead Winter
STAHP
Fuck table wine
Damn right.
Kellan
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And if you're drinking wine for quantity and not quality, you're not drinking the right kind of alcohol. Go get yourself 2 liters of vodka for 5 bucks if that's what you're trying to get out of wine. Wine making is an art, and drinking wine isn't something that should be taken lightly or with humor. I personally have a lot of hands on experience in the entire wine and champagne making process, and drinking it just to get drunk is an insult to the labor, craftsmanship, and attention to detail that this craft demands.
As CB said, there's plenty of amazing wines to be had for 10 dollars and under. That's what I was sort of getting at in my initial post. The label doesn't mean shit and even the most renowned winery can turn out a shit vintage. The only thing that should matter is what your nose and palate are telling you. Because ultimately that's all that really does matter.
The only thing boxed wine should be used for is cooking. Other than that it shouldn't exist.
As CB said, there's plenty of amazing wines to be had for 10 dollars and under. That's what I was sort of getting at in my initial post. The label doesn't mean shit and even the most renowned winery can turn out a shit vintage. The only thing that should matter is what your nose and palate are telling you. Because ultimately that's all that really does matter.
The only thing boxed wine should be used for is cooking. Other than that it shouldn't exist.
Chromatose
Squid pro quo
Do you also require drinkers to wear monocles and top hats?
No drinking in anything less than a 3 piece suit?
Kellan
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neal
wizard in black
Chromatose
Squid pro quo
Kellan
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neal
wizard in black
Kellan
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well, like I said before, once you've spent a couple years yourself making it and realizing the time and effort that goes into it, breaking your back and finding out how meticulous you have to be to make good wine, you get a different perspective and gain a high degree of respect for the end result that a lot of others might not necessarily know or share. I know you don't care but that's how I view it.
neal
wizard in black
my uncle started Black Sheep winery in Murphys CA in 1984 so ive witnessed and participated in various parts of the process my entire life. they do about 2,500 cases a year so it's a small, family run operation. i respect that it takes a certain talent to make great wine. your post just came off as snooty, thats all.
Dead_Lioness
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OOOH WINE! What a great thread 
I love wine... everyone knows that... it's going to be really hard for me to "list" all the wines that
I buy and love though... too many to mention.
Just a couple that are great, in case one of you hasn't tried them yet:
Great everyday/table wines: (for great prices)
Virginia Village Cabarnet Franc 2004/03
Fat Bastard Shiraz
Da Vinci Chianti Classico (any year)
Bogle - Russian River Pinot Noir 2005
Chateau St. Jean Fume Blanc La Petit Etoile 2004
In fact.... everything from Chateau St. Jean is great.
also... Sebastiani is a great winery that almost every wine is excellent.
a little "more" and my top favorites:
Cardinal Zin 2005 Zinfandel
Mia's Playground Cabarnet or the Merlot- both excellent
Barboursville Octagon 2004 - e.x.c.e.l.l.e.n.t!!!
also: Barboursville Cabarnet Reserve 2001: amazing.
Dalton Estate Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve
and the list goes on and on..... I typed everything from memory, didn't
even look in my wine fridge to see what I probably forgot... oh well.
Tyler: if you like Chianti wines:
Did you try the Ruffino Chianti Riserva 2001?
or: Cinabro Riserva 2001?
both excellent !
ok i'll shut up now.
I love wine... everyone knows that... it's going to be really hard for me to "list" all the wines that
I buy and love though... too many to mention.
Just a couple that are great, in case one of you hasn't tried them yet:
Great everyday/table wines: (for great prices)
Virginia Village Cabarnet Franc 2004/03
Fat Bastard Shiraz
Da Vinci Chianti Classico (any year)
Bogle - Russian River Pinot Noir 2005
Chateau St. Jean Fume Blanc La Petit Etoile 2004
In fact.... everything from Chateau St. Jean is great.
also... Sebastiani is a great winery that almost every wine is excellent.
a little "more" and my top favorites:
Cardinal Zin 2005 Zinfandel
Mia's Playground Cabarnet or the Merlot- both excellent
Barboursville Octagon 2004 - e.x.c.e.l.l.e.n.t!!!
also: Barboursville Cabarnet Reserve 2001: amazing.
Dalton Estate Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve
and the list goes on and on..... I typed everything from memory, didn't
even look in my wine fridge to see what I probably forgot... oh well.
Tyler: if you like Chianti wines:
Did you try the Ruffino Chianti Riserva 2001?
or: Cinabro Riserva 2001?
both excellent !
ok i'll shut up now.
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Great table wine.
I haven't had either of them, but I may have to keep an eye out.
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