TOP 10 GUITARISTS

1.Michael Romeo
2.Marty Friedman
3.Al di Meola
4.Jason Becker
5.Malmsteen
6.Steve Vai
7.Chris Impellittery
8.John petrucci
9.Eric johnson
10.Muhammed(Necrophagist)
 
w00t, what an awesome thread! :D

anyway, @progmetalpilgrim:

I was looking back through the eariler pages of the thread, and have to ask...you HAVE given Holdsworth a proper listening by now, right? If not, we need to rectify that asap.


yeah man, I've grown up lately, been really getting into Holdsworth, especially on the latest Planet X cd, but also digging Shawn Lane, Greg Howe, Pat Metheny, Tony MacAlpine's work in Cab, Brett Garsed...

In fact, after a year of practice, I'm probably going to be applying to do a Jazz degree at the Conservatorium here... :cool:

Anyway, my current list of Shredders:

John Petrucci
Tony MacAlpine
Ron Jarzombek (yes Altitudes, I have heard of him... :p )
Steve Vai
Michael Romeo
James Murphy
Jason Becker
Marty Friedman
Matthias Eklundh
C J Grimmark


And Jazz / Fusion guys:

Tony MacAlpine (included him twice cos he's awesome)
Brett Garsed
Greg Howe
Allan Holdsworth
Shawn Lane
Pat Metheny
Frank Gambale
John McLaughlin
Eric Johnson
Steve Morse

probably many more in both lists, but that'll do for now...
 
Yikes! None of those guys have super duper sickening technique except for Buckethead & Bumblefoot. Giblert is a good picker, but he's also a very linear player who has a penchant for running Magor Scale Modes. Very overrated in the guitar community. Here is a guy with personality who is good at marketing himself, but there are plenty of guys out there who can play circles around him if put in a corner. Yngwie has clean impressive technique, but a lot of guys surpassed him bigtime. He's not one of the faster shredders really. Get Rhoads the hell off that list too Bro.

Greg Howe annihilates all those except for maybe Buckethead & Bumblefoot.

what a dumb ass post

the more technical a player gets the worse the songs that come out of them are

then all those that have "surpassed" someone are knock off clones that lack internal creativity so they had no problems sitting in a chair all day copying all the "fastest" licks and shredding the scales, modes, and arpegio sweeps. Mashing them together and calling it innovation

In the end they produce recordings that make people wonder where the song is, wheres the feel and when will they come down off their hyper active over practiced repetoir and write a good song that shows some human emotion.
 
now in order :p

1.Jasun Tipton (Zero Hour)
First because of four reasons. His technical skill is immense. His melodic approach is fresh and musical. His ability to think outside the box of typical guitarplaying is progressive. And not least, he's one of the nicest dudes on the planet.

2.Alex Lifeson (Rush)
Second, because of Jason's skill and originality. Second because his playing is soulful, skilled, and his sound is legendary and sweet.

3.Dave Gilmour (Pink Floyd)
Third because of skill, yet third because of originality and smoothness. Nobody is as liquid as Dave, except maybe Piotr.

4.Neal Schon (Journey)
Not as original as the top three. But he's got chops, and he knows how to use them tastefully to tear up a screaming melody line with confidence. You can hear the "I know what I'm doing" in his sound.

5.Carlos Santana (Santana)
Up here for the influence he lent to the instrument for so many. Yet, unlike other major influential players, Carlos gives more. His foundation for underpriviledged, his amazingly smooth sound, and his ability to make his instrument truly speak put him in the top five.

6.Piotr Grundzinski (Riverside)
The up and coming. Piotr could easily be Dave Gilmour's future rival. This Polish guy has a great sense of melody and atmosphere, and uses his ability to pull you into his world.

7.Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth)
The Ålmighty. He's got insane riffs, which he can deliver death metal vox over at the same time. Mad props. He's also a great guy, and no fool when it comes to the history of prog music and death metal. Mike will school just about anyone in obscure bands from the 70s.

8.Steve Rothery (Marillion)
Melody king. Not only has this dude the skills, he has improv down. The solo on Easter was tracked just once during an informal rehearsal, and that hit the record.

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Why Steve Vai, Petrucci, Satriani, etc don't make this list: They recycle their own riffs and aren't all that innovative, save Vai. Vai's got the innovation, but again, once he comes up with something new, he uses and abuses it to death. He doesn't really have a great songwriting ability either, though for fast paced virtuoso riffs and wild tremolo effects he wins hands down. Petrucci is incredibly overrated, just another fast metal guitarist. Satch has more songwriting skill than Vai, but hasn't contributed much memorable work since his early years, which were great. Also like Vai, he reuses a lot of riffs and technique-tricks ad nauseum. What about MJR you say? See "Petrucci". I await the flames for such comments. Same story for Yngwie and players like him. Oh, and he's also got the "asshole factor" against him. (See Tipton).

I'm not going to get into Jazz and Fusion, because then my top 10 would become a top 30.
 
For me personally, I'd go with something like the following:

Jeff Loomis (Nevermore)
James Malone (Arsis)
Piotr Grudzinski (Riverside)
Bart Frydrychowicz (Quo Vadis)
Chuck Schuldiner
Mikael Akerfeldt
Joe Duplantier/Christian Andreu (Gojira)
Yossi Sa'aron (Orphaned Land)
Jari Mäenpää (Wintersun)

I guess I'm short one, but whatever (unless you want to count the guys from Gojira seperately :lol: ).
 
Probably for a good reason. :lol:

yea, metal is a guitar based music and seldom do we guitarists think about keyboard players

however for myself the young Billy Joel will always be my favorite key tinkler... :heh:

I really would not be able to rate keyboard players

I'd even reach way back for bass players when the music gave them room to breath like Felix Papallardi. In metal they only seem to have a pressence but are burried in the flurry regardless of how awesome they are playing. Like back in 92 or 3 when I saw DT and Myung was tearing up that fretboard but you would have hardly noticed what he was playing other than it added low end to the mix.

That wacky dude from ??? Primus... Wes Claypool is an awesome bass player but his music is too wacy for me. Or say "The Flea". But they get a chance to stand out in the music and drive the song, not the case with metal......... damn guitar players.

Drummers just plain suck cause they are too f'in loud!!! Cant kill 'em cause you have to have 'em..... :lol: I actually depend on playing with a drummer because I just cant get inspired and feel it without. I just simply hate all the cymbol crashing
 
Of the top of my head and In no particular order... except for Vai

Steve Vai - The fucking king, I love everything about his playing. Passion and warfare is hands sown my favourite instrumental guitar album.

John Petrucci - I love dream theater, and his playing, riffs and memorable leads play a massive part in this. More than just another metal guitar player.

Marty Friedman – Again another who’s leads just stick out as memorable and catchy

Chris Haskett (Rollins Band) – What I love most about Rollins band (along with rollins delivery) is the sounds they got with predominantly a 3 piece rhythm section. The interplay between Haskett on guitars and Andrew Weiss and subsequently Melvin gibbs on Bass was awesome.

Dimebag –Riff machine, awesome leads and a great attitude. RIP.

Zakk – Overrated in guitar media but like dime, is a solid player with a great attitude toward playing and having a good time.

Yngwie - Sure hes an arrogant cunt, but this cunt can play a mean guitar. He hasn’t reinvented the wheel so to speak in the last few years, but his contribution to modern guitar playing has been outstanding.

Larry Lalonde (Primus) – To play in a three piece band along side Les Claypool is a pretty big ask. Lalonde seems to have the knack to know when to play and when to back off. Claypool has done numerous side projects in his time with guitarists of the ilk of Buckethead and Trey Anastasio, but no one compliments him quite like Ler.

Dan Spitz (Anthrax) – The midget watchmaker makes the list. At their peak in the late 80's athrax IMO were untouchable in the Thrash scene. Spitz's leads were often strange but undoubtably memorable - I just like this guys playing

Satch – I’d say another overrated player, but then again, no one quite writes a catchy melody like satch. His simplistic song structures and limited variety of tones tend to bore me at times, but he has written some killer instrumental guitar tracks.
 
Here's some of mine. Hopefully these will be mostly different from most of the ones on this thread... finally some a little more different! :)

In no particular order, take a look!

1. Buckethead
2. Shawn Lane
3. Michael Romeo
4. Frank Marino
5. Michael Lerner
6. Ron Jarzombek
7. Bill Frisell
8. Jeff Beck
9. Bill Koutsouros
10. Enver Izmailov
 
what a dumb ass post

the more technical a player gets the worse the songs that come out of them are

then all those that have "surpassed" someone are knock off clones that lack internal creativity so they had no problems sitting in a chair all day copying all the "fastest" licks and shredding the scales, modes, and arpegio sweeps. Mashing them together and calling it innovation

In the end they produce recordings that make people wonder where the song is, wheres the feel and when will they come down off their hyper active over practiced repetoir and write a good song that shows some human emotion.

Wrong. Your post is the dumb ass post - at least with your very first comment. If you would have actually payed attention to what I was quoting you would quickly realize this. The guy I quoted said those guys in the list I quoted were basically the top 5 guitar technicians. There are plenty of guys who surpass a lot of those guys like Gilbert & Rhoads technique wise. I'm not saying any of them suck, there are just many more guys out there with a much crazier technique.

Everything else you said made kinda made sense though, but there are guys out there with sick techniques who can still write a good song like Holdsworth, Romeo, & Petrucci. You're right that it takes more than good technique to write a good song.

Just think before you quote next time Dude.
 
:lol:nope. This is coming from from someone who is a HUGE fan and owns almost everything greg has recorded (I still don't have the Howe II records). His legato technique is pretty killer, but there are still a lot of players who wipe the floor with him from a technical standpoint. His phrasing, ability to navigate through changes (espcially considering how relatively little theory he knows), and overall feel for the instrument are incredible though.

So, do Vai & Gilbert have more sickening technique than Howe?

Howe has amazing feel, angular lines, he can alternate pick/sweep/shred just wonderfully, & his tapping is out of this world. I would kill to be able to play like that guy.

Vai is very good & my absolute favorite guitarist, but he doesn't have shit on Howe in the technique department. We already both made mention of Gilbert's linear style, but he is a hell of a picker.

There are guys out there that I think smoke Howe's technique, I juat said he was better than 4/6 out of those guys. I'm not very familiar wth Bumblefoot though, that's why I'm not passing judgement on him.