Tube Screamer FAQ Version 1
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Speak for yourself dude, mine was a floor model when I bought it and still works great
For transparency... buying an overdrive unit for its 'transparency' is like buying steak because you want to eat vegetables. It distorts your signal and tells everything that isn't close to 700-800Hz to go fuck itself. You're not buying transparency...
For the broken TS7... TS7s break, as does any pedal. Having dealt with about eighteen metric fucktons more of them than you have, I can safely say that your one broken pedal being justification for slamming EVERY pedal of the same make is complete and utter bullshit. I fix pedals of every make and just about any price under around $300 that you can name... they all break, so judging all by one example isn't very bright or open-minded of you. Also, for the price of your Maxon you could have gotten three or more TS7s and had backups, so that even when they did break you'd still have another two while the broken one was out taking advantage of the warranty...
Don't take that too personally, I just hear a lot of that stuff from people who want to justify spending three times as much for the same thing by slamming the less expensive option... and even if that weren't the case you and your one broken pedal are hardly in a position to make sweeping generalizations.
Jeff
For the broken TS7... TS7s break, as does any pedal. Having dealt with about eighteen metric fucktons more of them than you have, I can safely say that your one broken pedal being justification for slamming EVERY pedal of the same make is complete and utter bullshit. I fix pedals of every make and just about any price under around $300 that you can name... they all break, so judging all by one example isn't very bright or open-minded of you. Also, for the price of your Maxon you could have gotten three or more TS7s and had backups, so that even when they did break you'd still have another two while the broken one was out taking advantage of the warranty...
Don't take that too personally, I just hear a lot of that stuff from people who want to justify spending three times as much for the same thing by slamming the less expensive option... and even if that weren't the case you and your one broken pedal are hardly in a position to make sweeping generalizations.
Jeff
but the maxon has such nice looks 
of course you are right, JBroll, I just got unlucky with the TS-7, or should i say lucky it broke so soon, so it was still under warranty
oh, and the maxon wasn't that explensive, 110 Euro's vs 59 for the TS-7
The sound isn't exaclty the same either, the maxon has more mids , not that it is a huge difference, but it is certainly there if you AB them.
of course you are right, JBroll, I just got unlucky with the TS-7, or should i say lucky it broke so soon, so it was still under warranty
oh, and the maxon wasn't that explensive, 110 Euro's vs 59 for the TS-7
The sound isn't exaclty the same either, the maxon has more mids , not that it is a huge difference, but it is certainly there if you AB them.
Okay, so you just got called out on trying to make a sweeping generalization about a pedal based on experience with one, and now you're trying to make a sweeping generalization about two pedals based on experience with one pair?
Either you're trying to annoy me or you just aren't getting some part of this 'critical thinking' package, and I disapprove. Seriously... keep misinformed, unqualified statements over at Harmony Central and let big kids who know what they're talking about post here.
Jeff
nope, not trying to annoy you, just compared these two pedals, what's wrong with that ?
Where am i misinformed if say a TS-7 doesn't sound the same as a maxon OD-9 ?
Where am i misinformed if say a TS-7 doesn't sound the same as a maxon OD-9 ?
Brett - K A L I S I A
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slashvanyoung
Dopefish lives!
Just these 2 actually, there weren't any more in the shop, compared them too with a TS9DX, which sounded the same as the TS-7, but the maxon stood out as having more mids and a bit clearer sound too.
So you are saying there could just be this much difference between 2 TS-7's as between this particular maxon OD-9 and this TS-7 ?
i gotta admit I'm a sucker for product hype. Especially when it came from the horse's mouth, Andy Sneap that the OD820 stands up to the best of the originals. For eons I've never thought of buying a tubescsreamer pedal until now and would like the first one I own to be a really nice juicy steak, screw the vege sides.
Am sure the other tubescreamer models stand up pretty well against each other. Simple rule for purchases. Buy, Try, Don't Like, Sell. Don't intend to lose sleep over it. Maybe I should get a TS7 as well.
Cheerios,
Yes, that's just about right - component deviances play into these things a great deal. I've personally had some fun testing old geezers' ears with a few TS7s and OD9s that had their guts switched out...
"Of course, the OD9 has more clarity. That's what you'd expect, it's a better-made pedal with better components."
"Well, thanks for your time. You've proven very well that a TS7 in a more expensive box sounds better than an OD9 in a cheaper box. Our developers will be certain to put everything in more expensive boxes and charge higher prices than they should because of your input. Have a lovely day."
EDIT: I'm chilled out, but when someone fails completely to make simple connections and learn from obvious mistakes I have to try to be a little more blunt to get the point across.
"Unqualified generalization based on very limited experience with a product!"
"Explanation as to why said unqualified generalization should not have been made!"
"Apology for the unqualified generalization... different unqualified generalization based on very limited experience with *two* products!"
Problem.
Jeff
Because this topic deals with TS´s i´d like to ear your input on this plug...
I ask because the only TS i own is the one in the PODxt and it sounds substantialy different to this plug with the same settings.
Does it sound like a REAL TS?
Can it substitute a real one or is it just another Overdrive plug.
I must say that i like this plug a lot!!! and it´s a freebie.
http://www.bteaudio.com/software/TSS/TSS.html
I ask because the only TS i own is the one in the PODxt and it sounds substantialy different to this plug with the same settings.
Does it sound like a REAL TS?
Can it substitute a real one or is it just another Overdrive plug.
I must say that i like this plug a lot!!! and it´s a freebie.
http://www.bteaudio.com/software/TSS/TSS.html
hoehlentroll
Member
I'll have to try it.
Try this... if you can't hear it being middier and compressed - which is what you want, a peak centered around 700something hertz and some compression - just look at a frequency analyzer and compare the frequency response off and on. I'll get to it eventually if you can't pull that off.
Jeff
Try this... if you can't hear it being middier and compressed - which is what you want, a peak centered around 700something hertz and some compression - just look at a frequency analyzer and compare the frequency response off and on. I'll get to it eventually if you can't pull that off.
Jeff
izzyrock
Chilean Rocker
JBroll is right, even two Ts9 of the same kind could sound different, There are many factors such as inexact resistor's values, etc.
I remember reading somewhere that those old fuzz boxes sounded different even with a different 9v battery, so Hendrix went to the stores, tried them ALL and picked the one he liked.
Nowadays is much different, but like i said, there is some things u cannot control.
I just made an exact CLON of the od820 (i was the one that sent u the schemo jbroll), and it sounds fantastic, and even tho, i used better parts than the original, like metal films resistors and poliester capacitors, etc. Even the japanese arent puting the best shit arround.
And let me tell you something, this is supossed to be top secret but wtf. Maxon started to put worse parts on the ibanez manufacturing, so maxon would always sound better.. well nowadays they broke up relationships.
cya
I remember reading somewhere that those old fuzz boxes sounded different even with a different 9v battery, so Hendrix went to the stores, tried them ALL and picked the one he liked.
Nowadays is much different, but like i said, there is some things u cannot control.
I just made an exact CLON of the od820 (i was the one that sent u the schemo jbroll), and it sounds fantastic, and even tho, i used better parts than the original, like metal films resistors and poliester capacitors, etc. Even the japanese arent puting the best shit arround.
And let me tell you something, this is supossed to be top secret but wtf. Maxon started to put worse parts on the ibanez manufacturing, so maxon would always sound better.. well nowadays they broke up relationships.
cya
While I wouldn't be surprised, I don't think 'worse' parts are possible in TS circuits given that 'mojo' comes from ancient carbon-comp bullshit and the 'best' chip is really just awful at existence...
Jeff
AdamWathan
Member
Just curious, I saw you mention in the thread earlier Jeff that you prefer the SD-1 to all the tube screamers out there, does it do the same thing as a Tubescreamer for the most part? Does it affect the EQ and compression of the signal the same way a TS7 does for example? Just curious as to why you prefer it and if you actually meant you prefer it for the same applications! Thanks man!
