Tube Screamer FAQ Version 1

Just curious, I saw you mention in the thread earlier Jeff that you prefer the SD-1 to all the tube screamers out there, does it do the same thing as a Tubescreamer for the most part? Does it affect the EQ and compression of the signal the same way a TS7 does for example? Just curious as to why you prefer it and if you actually meant you prefer it for the same applications! Thanks man!

It does the same stuff in slightly different ways... cayenne versus Tabasco, really.

It has different clipping - asymmetrical clipping, as I mentioned above, which tends to sound more natural, and since it's achieved by adding a diode (which gives a higher clipping threshold) there's a different type of fuzz/compression balance. It can add a different kind of 'grit' or 'snarl' to the sound that I usually like on my sounds. Plus, I like the way it responds to different op amps.

Apart from being a slightly different 'flavor', it just does the same stuff. Plus, like the TS7, there isn't that 'vintagemojoholygrailjustlikewhatsomedeadguyused' atmosphere and you get a lot for your money. Basically, if you're concerned about the TS7 not being able to survive enough nuclear holocausts, the SD-1 will outlive cockroaches.

Jeff
 
No offense but this guide is really unreadable with all the nonsensical ranting... A one-paragraph summary of actual information would be helpful. :D
 
There are actually a few in there.

As for 'unreadable'... keep two things in mind. One... I'm writing about electronics for musicians. Electronics. Musicians. See the problem? Honestly, I can't make sense to everyone, but this does make sense to all but a few people I've come across, and a less than 1% fuckup rate really isn't all that bad. If you have actual questions that you couldn't find the answers to there, ask them; if the answers are there, I'll clarify whatever doesn't make sense. The ranting is to help visualize very complicated and annoying aspects of electronics - would you rather I explain EQ in terms of the usual water-hose electricity analogy? I know from experience that it doesn't work. What you have there is a few tangents (tangents that still contained enough useful information to be saved and were found entertaining by the vast majority of people who helped me with this), a lot of analogies (analogies that work incredibly well for how bizarre they are), and a good chunk of technical detail hidden in prettier form.

Also, the questions you asked were basically answered in the main body *and* in the questions following the rambling.

There really is a limit to how many birds I can kill with one stone, I have to make sense to a lot of people and still keep interest. Nonsensical is a really big stretch considering what's in there... maybe you just need a broader understanding so more things make sense. However, there are several sections where main points were put more clearly and precisely, so I have to wonder whether you actually read the whole thing.

Jeff
 
I don't have time to read the massive post, and what I did read was just like "radio host filler" with no real point. I really need to just cut to the point and I'm sorry if I offended you at all, but I really just wanted to know how the tube screamer would work with my tube amp. I don't mean how the electrolytes are transported, I mean just a really basic "what does it do". Does it make it loud and remove hiss or what? Thanks man :)
 
I don't have time to read the massive post, and what I did read was just like "radio host filler" with no real point. I really need to just cut to the point and I'm sorry if I offended you at all, but I really just wanted to know how the tube screamer would work with my tube amp. I don't mean how the electrolytes are transported, I mean just a really basic "what does it do". Does it make it loud and remove hiss or what? Thanks man :)

lol it makes stuff sound good is that basic enough :lol::heh:
 
Ok, the metal use typically is NOT for any kind of "clean boost" or "overdrive" - rather, it's pretty much used as an eq pedal in the way it adds a mid-boost (though there's more to it than that, and if you want to know what, READ), so generally none of amps settings need to be changed.
 
dude, if you want jbrolls advice ( he is the tube screamer master) than READ HIS POSTS. (hint: the guys you come to this forum to ask advice are the dudes you are being rude to) something like explaining the difference between clip circuits and how overdrive pedals work, and the difference between them cannot be broken down that much. do you want to have a poor knowledge of overdrive, or make poor recordings?

sorry but im sick of these squabbles cluttering up a good forum

edit: for half assed replies, see HARMONY CENTRAL
 
if someone bothered to write this faq and you´re interested in it ...read it.
Thank the man for sharing his knowledge, He certanly knows more than me.
Peace
 
I don't have time to read the massive post, and what I did read was just like "radio host filler" with no real point. I really need to just cut to the point and I'm sorry if I offended you at all, but I really just wanted to know how the tube screamer would work with my tube amp. I don't mean how the electrolytes are transported, I mean just a really basic "what does it do". Does it make it loud and remove hiss or what? Thanks man :)

If you didn't read it, you have no right to bitch about not finding what you're looking for.

I've tried to be patient, and now you're just getting absurd. Rarely is it a good idea to insult someone's work when you aren't understanding it or even using it to its fullest; even less frequently is it a good idea to then ask for MORE HELP. Did you read the questions? Did you at least gloss over it?

Call it "radio host filler" if you want, it's a very technical explanation in very casual and informal language with very clear and visual analogies. I can start flooding you with the real science behind it, but I basically can't make it simpler than that. If you want to know how it works, or what it does (again, IT'S IN THERE, you just actually have to READ to KNOW WHAT'S WRITTEN), or how to use it, you can find it there.

If you want some horribly flawed bunch of bullshit that just insults your intelligence by being so simple and gets things wrong by oversimplifying them, go to Musician's Friend or Harmony Central. If you want tech stuff, look up a tech article. If you have a question that actually wasn't answered, I will answer it and then post it in the common questions portion.

I've tried to make something entertaining enough to keep reader interest and still accurate and detailed. By just about every other account, I've done a damn good job.

Want to know something else? Here's my background, just in case you don't believe that I know what I'm talking about and that I'm exactly the kind of guy you should be taking seriously if you want actual answers. I'm a math and physics nerd. My leisure reading was the textbooks my mother used to get her math degree from a very prestigious school. I learned how to program computers at the same time I was learning to speak. I sleep twice a week, and I spend most of my time either learning or teaching - since I was in kindergarten I was the guy everyone went to with math, science, and computer questions. In a matter of days I'll be getting a bachelor's in math with a minor in physics, and at the end of next month I'm starting graduate studies in the same field... at the age of 20. Just about every aptitude test I've taken has shown me as being literally through the roof, and the people I tutor and teach wind up improving by factors they didn't think possible. I've built and modded these pedals, as well as a number of other audio devices, for years now. Long story short, I know what I'm talking about... how's that for a summary?

If someone asks a question, I answer it and share that answer with everyone else on the forum through this thread. I've had people read this not just for the technical information but for amusement - I'm sorry, the "radio host filler" - and had people (with no knowledge or interest in pro audio) send it to me saying "This is great, you'd probably like this..." after reading it.

This was created to cut down on the repetitive questions that EVERYONE asked at one point or another, and it is also the starting point for any other discussion on such devices and their use - I simply cannot answer your questions without directing you to something like this so that I know you have at least some level of competency with this stuff, or going through every detail individually.

If you read through this and still have questions, ask. If you want a more detailed or technical description, ask. But I wouldn't recommend asking questions like that, with obnoxious fucking smiley faces while you insult something that took time and work to create.

And Raptor Jesus save your sorry ass if you respond to this with the same tl;dr bullshit you've been trying to pass off as an excuse for your own inability to learn without having everything handed to you on a silver platter.

Jeff
 
Well I just told you I don't have time for reading big posts like that, so I give up. -_-
I'll find the info elsewhere.
 
OK I just finished putting in an Burr-Brown OPA2134PA. it had a TA75558P Op Amp. I took your advice and put in an IC Socket for future swaps, in case I feel like it. I won't be able to try it out until I get home (at work now). Curious to hear the difference. Does anyone know if the TI OPA2134 are the same as the BB OPA2134? I know that Texas Instruments took over BB, which is why I ask. I'm not sure if TI makes the same exact BB Chip with a TI Label, because there were a few of those floating around as well.
 
It's really not meant to come across that way - and anyone who's met me in person can pretty much confirm that. Slightly on-edge, yes. Overcaffeinated, certainly. But I'm not doing stuff like this to show off - I'm doing it because I think people should be able to know this stuff much more easily and I know that I can make complicated things not seem so complicated with a bit of work.

And the last few posts in the exchange with the guy who kept making excuses for not wanting to read the whole thing... I lose patience easily, especially when something I worked on for a while and spent a lot of effort on is insulted like that. I have no patience for people who expect special treatment like that, but apart from not wanting my work insulted I'm not as hostile as it might appear.

ElektricEyez, very rarely is the same chip name used for two different chips. It could be that those are old chips, and that's what I'd bet on.

Jeff
 
Speaking of this thread.

I was doing some reamping last night and I had 3 dist/overdrive pedals to work with. An Ibanez TK999 (old model), a modded bluesdriver, and a modded DS-1. I dumped the modded metal zone, it just wasn't working out :lol:.

Anyhow, back on topic. The modded bluesdriver was the best on this amp EVAR. For some reason the amp (b-52) was very loose, the breakup was uneven (I think you know what I mean). Throw the bluesdriver in front and wham tightened that sucker right up. The TK999 was good as well but still had to much wooleyness to it. The DS-1 is a distortion, and even though the mods I placed in that pedal made the pedal have some more low end (that pedal is weak as hell) it just doesn't do what an overdrive circuit does.

While I can't go into detail what mods were done, I can say that the cliping section of the pedal as well as the chip were changed. I guess what I am saying is modding pedals is very rewarding, even if you just throw a better op amp chip in.

I just got to figure out if I can load a new chip into the TK999.... :erk:


Anyhow there really is no point to this post. /end
 
So I ordered 3 Burr Brown OPA2134PA chips to replace the 3 cheap TI TL072CP chips in my tube king (ibanez usa model).

The nice thing is that the pedal already has chip sockets and they are nicer than the ones that are coming with the chips so hell yeah! The suck is that those chips are a little over $6 a piece so this better make a nice difference. I doubt it since the stock chips are not a bad choice on ibanez's part (they are better than the JRC4558D IMO).

We will see :D

I'm also throwing in a new JJ gold pin tube, so if all goes well this thing should sound even more fantastical once I am done!
 
I didn't mean to upset you man, I just don't have all the time in the world to spend on a message board... All I wanted to know was what the tube screamer would do for me. I don't want to know what molecules would circle which neutrons to cause the atoms to vibrate hard enough for the air in the wire of the tube screamer to wiggle. I have a Peavey 6505+, cab, and a guitar that I play through it with.. I just wanted to know if it would clean up the tone, get rid of the hiss or staticy sound... I still don't even know what the thing is, I'm guessing it is some kind of distortion pedal, but from the few paragraphs of your thing I did read, it could be some kind of electrical outlet to induce thermonuclear fusion?
 
What I'm saying is that you'd do well to phrase things better. Nobody else found it unreadable, or was too busy to read it, or found it to be 'radio host filler', so what you're saying comes across as 'I'm talking shit because I'm lazy and/or think my time is too important' - I'm a graduate math student who also works more than one job and on top of that spends about 25 hours a week tutoring, teaching, and writing articles like that, so I don't take it too well when people tell me they don't have time and want more of my time to be spent telling them things they can find on their own - in less time than you've spent trying to defend your remarks.

If your question is whether or not 'it is some kind of distortion pedal', you can find that information from a bloody Musician's Friend page. That's even worse than we thought it was.

Jeff