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Yeah, and I heard Chuck Billy, in an interview, say that the only reason they re-recorded that stuff was because Atlantic wouldn't remaster it.
 
cop out of what? explain?

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I don't see any way for it to be a cop out. I don't blame all these guys for wanting to re-record albums, given the leaps and bounds that production and mixing has made in the last 10-20 years. I would LOVE to be able to go back and re-record almost everything I've ever done, just to hear how much better it would sound with modern recording ideals applied. A lot of these records that so called "purists" are complaining about being re-recorded can be made so much better in the eyes of the artists. There are all kinds of albums that guys complain about certain nuances of guitar parts, overdubs, backing vox, etc. getting lost in the original mixes. Re-recording an album like "Bonded By Blood" will allow the listener to hear every little thing that was written into the music originally, but didn't come through in the mix. Exhorder is going back and redoing there old stuff for that exact reason. I think it's great and I can't wait to hear these older records as they were originally intended, but never received.
 
Not that any of you give a shit about my opinion, but just to clarify I definitely don't think it's a cop out. I think a clear-sounding Bonded by Blood will be fucken awesome, but still it won't be the same without Baloff. You can say all you want about how awful his vox are but really in the end you are wrong, he is a god of sorts.
 
I dunno, I guess cop-out in the sense that it's like "hmm, how can we release an album but not have to exert the effort to write new material? I know, we'll just re-do the same thing that worked for us in the past!"
 
I dunno, I guess cop-out in the sense that it's like "hmm, how can we release an album but not have to exert the effort to write new material? I know, we'll just re-do the same thing that worked for us in the past!"

Most times, that's not the case though. Exodus is gearing up for the new album right now. They just wanted to get this new version of "BBB" done, because they've been talking about it since before Paul died.

To Genius Gone Insane:
Yeah, anyone who has the "lack of vision" to discredit Baloff is BANTHA FODDER.
 
I dunno, I guess cop-out in the sense that it's like "hmm, how can we release an album but not have to exert the effort to write new material? I know, we'll just re-do the same thing that worked for us in the past!"

Ive got your back on this one dude, Im not an Exodous buff by any means, so I cant weigh in on this particular one with any conviction. But by and large re-recordings of old tunes and albums suck IMO with few exeptions. If the Misfits magically got back together the original lineup and redid all those old tunes with Date, Sneap, Albini, whomever it would lose some of its dated charm.
 
All albums suck. Tr00 kvlt bands are above frivolous pursuits such as enjoyment and criticism, and thus don't want to be heard. Recording is blasphemous and shall be forbidden in Vinnland!

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so live albums suck too?

Well no, I don't think so, because a live album is always only gonna be old songs, cuz that's what the audience loves to hear, and I like hearing new takes on old favorites. And I'm not saying I wouldn't enjoy hearing those new takes done in a studio session either; I just feel in principle that putting out literally the exact same album recorded again rather than trying to be creative and write something new is just a bit, well, lazy/lame. I'm speaking totally generally and in principle here, mind you, not specifically referring to Exodus.
 
Well no, I don't think so, because a live album is always only gonna be old songs, cuz that's what the audience loves to hear, and I like hearing new takes on old favorites. And I'm not saying I wouldn't enjoy hearing those new takes done in a studio session either; I just feel in principle that putting out literally the exact same album recorded again rather than trying to be creative and write something new is just a bit, well, lazy/lame. I'm speaking totally generally and in principle here, mind you, not specifically referring to Exodus.

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i dont understand the problem about re recording old material. Why not, its not like they are forcing you to buy it or taking the original back..... No one complains when a live album comes out.

Except for a bizarre subset of Iron Maiden and Deep Purple fans. But I digress...

I really don't see the problem with rerecording songs. Given the opportunity, I'd re-record everything I've ever bothered to record in the first place. I'd love to hear Killing is my Business by Megadeth re-recorded. For the amount that people bitch and moan, I'm wondering if there isn't some Heavy Metal illuminati that is actually holding guns to peoples' heads, forcing them to re-buy albums that they already own. If it's a cash grab, more power to them. I probably make more money after taxes than half the musicians that I listen to, and I ain't rich.
 
i think the best solution would be for a band to pick a few songs off of several older albums and make a re-recorded compilation cd. that way it will get new fans interested in picking up their older material possibly, and the longtime fans will have something new to listen to as well.

In that case, lets hope there will be a successful masteringjob. Rise of the thyrant mastering is absolutely horrible.

+1000. when i fist got the cd i noticed something sounded really off. so i got a spectrum analyzer and there is definitely a 3k boost over the entire album that just makes it very fatiguing to listen too. i'm quite sure it was not that way prior to mastering.
 
Well no, I don't think so, because a live album is always only gonna be old songs, cuz that's what the audience loves to hear, and I like hearing new takes on old favorites. And I'm not saying I wouldn't enjoy hearing those new takes done in a studio session either; I just feel in principle that putting out literally the exact same album recorded again rather than trying to be creative and write something new is just a bit, well, lazy/lame. I'm speaking totally generally and in principle here, mind you, not specifically referring to Exodus.

name one band that has done this instead of releasing a new record. Its always just a side album so to speak, same as a live recording, usually to bridge the gap whilst they are writing, keep them in the press and shock, horror, maybe make them a tiny bit of cash which they probably didn't make on the original. I don't see anyone being lazy here. The only example of this I thought was lame was the tampering of the early ozzy albums.
 
name one band that has done this instead of releasing a new record. Its always just a side album so to speak, same as a live recording, usually to bridge the gap whilst they are writing, keep them in the press and shock, horror, maybe make them a tiny bit of cash which they probably didn't make on the original. I don't see anyone being lazy here. The only example of this I thought was lame was the tampering of the early ozzy albums.

Agreed. The Ozzy records should've been handled differently. And Bob Daisley should've been treated better on that deal. I have never put too much thought into bands re-recording albums, but now that Andy brings it up, I agree that it really does fall into that category with live albums, DVD's, Greatest Hits, etc. From the artist's standpoint, they're doing something that could be very important to them, by giving great songs the justice they may have always deserved in the studio. From a marketing standpoint, it helps bridge a gap between the last tour and the next original album.
 
Cute, Kazrog - I did try to make my post as generalized and unspecific as possible, so I don't quite think I deserved the almighty "fail" condemnation...

And Andy, yeah, I guess you're right - I certainly can't name any bands that I know specifically have re-recorded an old album literally in the stead of a new one; however, I also can't think of any bands besides Testament who have re-recorded an old album/old material to begin with...