Velvet Cacoon are really fucking good, sirs!

[Wires & Waves]

After some talk about them in another thread I decided to go back and listen to Genevieve which I haven't heard in a while.

Some people seem to write it off as simply Burzum-worship or something, but these people lack the musical vocabulary to recognize what it really is; an ambient combination of shoegazer and black metal (the fact that they've now apparently gone on to become a shoegazer band kinda exemplifies this). Given that I don't really listen to metal any more (and yes I am going to keep bringing this up in every single fucking post) and I'm really getting into shoegazer, it's pretty fascinating to pick up on this stuff for the first time. I remember an interview where SGL said they get their guitar sound by fucking with the original guitar riffs with a shitload of computer effects, and just building up the layers with different effects, which is startlingly similar to what it sounds like My Bloody Valentine (who as some of you have probably noticed are my obsession of the moment, as well as pretty much the best shoegazer band ever) did on Loveless. I always thought Genevieve was a good album, but now I realize it's a release that almost transcends the blackmetal genre.

DISCUSS!

 

[Susperia]

I agree, Genevieve is good.. but considering the bands recent history, and the fact that I don't like anything else by them... I wouldn't say they're really great altogether. What have you heard other than Genevieve?

 

[Wires & Waves]

I've heard their other black metal stuff which as far as I remember is kinda crappy, and How The Last Day Came... which is like quirky psych-blues or something with girl vocals which I actually really like!

 

[Nico]

Thumbs up to all posts in this thread.

So far...

 

[Ender Rises]

Including this one?

 

[Nico]

Pwned by ninja edit.

 

[Slayed Necros]

Meh it's not that great and certainly doesn't transcend anything.

 

[Wires & Waves]

Meh it's not that great and certainly doesn't transcend anything.

You wouldn't understand seeing as you only listen to metal >:]

 

[Slayed Necros]

probably

 

[fukfukfuc kfukfucfguc]

After some talk about them in another thread I decided to go back and listen to Genevieve which I haven't heard in a while.

Some people seem to write it off as simply Burzum-worship or something, but these people lack the musical vocabulary to recognize what it really is; an ambient combination of shoegazer and black metal (the fact that they've now apparently gone on to become a shoegazer band kinda exemplifies this). Given that I don't really listen to metal any more (and yes I am going to keep bringing this up in every single fucking post) and I'm really getting into shoegazer, it's pretty fascinating to pick up on this stuff for the first time. I remember an interview where SGL said they get their guitar sound by fucking with the original guitar riffs with a shitload of computer effects, and just building up the layers with different effects, which is startlingly similar to what it sounds like My Bloody Valentine (who as some of you have probably noticed are my obsession of the moment, as well as pretty much the best shoegazer band ever) did on Loveless. I always thought Genevieve was a good album, but now I realize it's a release that almost transcends the blackmetal genre.

DISCUSS!

it transcends music itself and is better categorized as "shit"

 

[Ender Rises]

 

[Nico]

mate

 

[Ender Rises]

Pwned by ninja edit.

BAH! Fuck dat shit. Editing is for pusses.

 

[fukfukfuc kfukfucfguc]

mate

mate...

 

[Europa Ascendent]

After some talk about them in another thread I decided to go back and listen to Genevieve which I haven't heard in a while.

Some people seem to write it off as simply Burzum-worship or something, but these people lack the musical vocabulary to recognize what it really is; an ambient combination of shoegazer and black metal (the fact that they've now apparently gone on to become a shoegazer band kinda exemplifies this).

Which is gay on the face of it. It's not a lack of 'musical vocabulary', but a presence of taste on the part of their detractors that motivates the dismissal of this utterly useless joke band.

The whole concept of 'shoegazer' music is so horrendously buggered that it ought to be beyond the pale even for card-carrying faggots. Mawkish, maudlin, morose, moronic - teenage angst gussied up as 'mature' moping - pretentious in the way that only shit aimed at liberal arts undergrads can be, shoegazer is the very definition of fail.

 

[Wires & Waves]

Which is gay on the face of it. It's not a lack of 'musical vocabulary', but a presence of taste on the part of their detractors that motivates the dismissal of this utterly useless joke band.

you just dont get it man

edit: so which anus faggot are you? falco?

i guess some people are still pissy that VC effectively (and hilariously) trolled the entire blackmetal community

 

[zim18]

After some talk about them in another thread I decided to go back and listen to Genevieve which I haven't heard in a while.

Some people seem to write it off as simply Burzum-worship or something, but these people lack the musical vocabulary to recognize what it really is; an ambient combination of shoegazer and black metal (the fact that they've now apparently gone on to become a shoegazer band kinda exemplifies this). Given that I don't really listen to metal any more (and yes I am going to keep bringing this up in every single fucking post) and I'm really getting into shoegazer, it's pretty fascinating to pick up on this stuff for the first time. I remember an interview where SGL said they get their guitar sound by fucking with the original guitar riffs with a shitload of computer effects, and just building up the layers with different effects, which is startlingly similar to what it sounds like My Bloody Valentine (who as some of you have probably noticed are my obsession of the moment, as well as pretty much the best shoegazer band ever) did on Loveless. I always thought Genevieve was a good album, but now I realize it's a release that almost transcends the blackmetal genre.

DISCUSS!

we need more girls like you in this world!

 

[Europa Ascendent]

you just dont get it man

No, I get it. I get that you're a stupid cunt in freshman comp. I get the fact that the whole concept of 'black metal,' hell, of art itself, is so far beyond your ken that I might as well be discussing quantum physics with the carcass of an armadillo. I get that you're probably having your current 'taste' dictated to you by the ambiguously gay aesthete in your intro soc course that you have an inexplicable crush on.

I get it, which is why I'm here to tell you that you're a fucking idiot, little girl.

 

[Europa Ascendent]

As for 'trolling the black metal community'

1. There is no 'community' to troll

2. The 'elitists' you dismiss were calling VC a hokey jokey mediocrity 3 years ago when they burst on the internet scene

 

[Teh Grimace]

telling people how much smarter and more cultured you are than them is stupid.

"shoegazer", though i hate the broadness of the term, is perfectly great.