As for Metallica, you guys must all be ancient if you can remember how 'sad' it was when the 'Black Album' came out, because I'm 36 and I still distinctly remember my mamma bringing spoilt, whiney, 12 year old requiem the 'Black Album' on tape as my basic entry point to metal after the aforementioned hair bands like Motley Crue and *cough* Poison. I sure as shit wasn't thinking, as my pudgy, chocolate stained fingers slid the cassette into the player after thanklessly snatching it from my harangued and under-appreciated mother, that this was a turning point for Metallica and something to be lamented.