What's your favourite video games?

[Blitzkrieg]

Theres only 3 quality exclusive titles on the GC

There may be only that many AAA games, but all the ones I listed are quality. By quality I mean above par and worth your time, not necessarily 'classic'.

Monkey Ball and most of the others are available on the other systems

Wrong.

the rest of the games in your list are nowhere near the quality of the 4 I mentioned

I know that, but your avoiding my point. There are more quality (not necessarily AAA) exclusive games on the GC than the XBOX.

 

[spawn]

http://xbox.ign.com/scores_9.html (Scroll down a bit, and just to point out 4 exclusives: Panzer Dragoon Oorta, Project Gotham Racing 2, Dead Or Alive 3 and Top Spin.)

 

[KoichCPA]

ps, you're a fag.

 

[KoichCPA]

http://xbox.ign.com/scores_9.html (Scroll down a bit, and just to point out 4 exclusives: Panzer Dragoon Oorta, Project Gotham Racing 2, Dead Or Alive 3 and Top Spin.)

i thought we were talking about quality games? not bog standard racing and fighting games.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Panzer Dragoon Oorta is one of the very few I was talking about so I will give you that.

I am not into sports games but I am confident Mario Tennis will be better than Top Spin.

Project Gotham Racing 2 is not exactly the best racing game ever. Overated and there is better around.
Dead Or Alive 3 is mediocre and there is better fighters around on all consoles.

If Super Mario Sunshine and Metroid Prime are AAA titles, I would call those two about a BB at best, and half the games on my GC list are much better.

 

[KoichCPA]

You have lost Micheal.

Go back you your fantasy world of ignoring valid points and changing the subject of debate when you are proven wrong.

You are a fag, goodbye.

 

[Bucko]

Well i like my PS2 , Favs are FIFA 2004, NRL , Rugby 2004, V8 SUPER CARS just sport games............My kids like their PS2, PS1, Sega& Nintedo 64 , plus various game boy things they all have one of those each spoilt buggers............

 

[Blitzkrieg]

 

[phlogiston]

I think I'll add this to the argument. I don't have a console (actually I have a N64, but it's in it's box in the cupboard) but if I was going to get one, I'd get an XBox. I decided this by going into EB games and looking at all the games they had in each section. There were more XBox games that I wanted to play than either GC or PS2.

 

[spawn]

Panzer Dragoon Oorta is one of the very few I was talking about so I will give you that.

I am not into sports games but I am confident Mario Tennis will be better than Top Spin.

Project Gotham Racing 2 is not exactly the best racing game ever. Overated and there is better around.
Dead Or Alive 3 is mediocre and there is better fighters around on all consoles.

If Super Mario Sunshine and Metroid Prime are AAA titles, I would call those two about a BB at best, and half the games on my GC list are much better.

Mario Tennis is better than Top Spin? Thats the funniest thing you have said all week Blitzy

The only thing better than DOA3 in a 3d fighter is the Virtua Fighter series, which I think is PS2 exclusive for now. The 2d fighters are still the best IMHO but DOA3 is fantastic.

You are over rating Mario and Metroid, particularly Metroid. They are nowhere near as good as the games that preceded them, just good 3d updates and NOT worth buying an entire system for.

 

[KoichCPA]

Soul Caliber 2 is better than dead or alive 2 for a start.

 

[spawn]

Deus Ex and Half Life are much better than Metroid Prime, that doesnt mean Metroid Prime sucks.

 

[KoichCPA]

x box destroyed deus ex 2.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I never said any one or two games were worth buying a system for, I am saying the GC is better than the XBOX based on the entire selection of games.

If you want to use IGN as a referance, thats fine, look up the score they gave Metroid Prime. It is the equal highest scoring game released on any of the three consoles (and higher than everything on XBOX), so if that isn't worth buying a console for what one game is?

Regarding Super Mario Sunshine, your right, it isn't as good as the game that preceded it, but that is because the game that preceded it is Super Mario 64, possibly the best game ever made, and nothing from this generation has come close to being that good. That doesn't mean SMS isn't great though.

As for overating those games, your the one that first said they were AAA titles. I just agreed.

DOA3 is not one of the better fighters available, and isn't even the best 3D fighter.

Phloggy: I would expect that from you as you are a PC gamer and the XBOX has the best specs, and largely consists of PC ports, where as the other systems have games specifically made for them.

 

[phlogiston]

So you're saying an XBox is better then?

 

[spawn]

You really think Metroid Prime is worth the score they gave it? Its worth a 9.2, not that.

Mario 3, Super Mario World and Mario 64 are all better than SMS.

DOA3 is great, only Virtua Fighter and Soul Calibur are better in a 3d fighter, though Soul Calibur is too much of abutton basher, you dont even need any skill to win a fight.

They ARE AAA titles, but if they are, then so are some of the ones on XBOX, the GC versions of all the classic games have all been the weakest of the series, you are looking at them through rose coloured glasses. The GC is not a good purchase, the games are more expensive and outside the very few Nintendo titles, its just as shitty as other systems when it comes to software libraries.

Nintendo used to make the best games, now the rest of the world has pretty much caught up and Nintendo are screwed, they even have outside companies making their games, like 1080, Fzero, Star Fox and Metroid. I wouldnt be surprised if they go the software only route like Sega after the GC. Though they kill everyone in the handheld market.

Oh, and Ninja Gaiden for the XBOX shall rock

 

[Blitzkrieg]

They ARE AAA titles, but if they are, then so are some of the ones on XBOX, the GC versions of all the classic games have all been the weakest of the series

Just because the games aren't as good as their predecessors, that doesn't mean they aren't good. The fact that they are still better than most of the other stuff around today is more of a testament ( ) to how good the original ones were, rather than saying anything bad about the current ones. IMO there is no games on any current system that are as good as what was available on the N64, but that doesn't mean the XBOX is better than the GC because of it. Sure Nintendo haven't been able to top themselves, but no one else has been able to top them either...

The GC is not a good purchase, the games are more expensive and outside the very few Nintendo titles, its just as shitty as other systems when it comes to software libraries.

So your saying the XBOX has a shitty software library, and the GC's is slightly better because of the exclusive titles? Because that is what I have been saying all along, so if you agree with me why didn't you say so ealier.

As for games being more expensive I don't really follow. Each system has their range of older popular games that have had the RRP reduced. Games on all systems are full price upon release, and most multiplatform games are the same or very similar price on all consoles. If you want to play those exclusive games (not just Nintendo made ones) that aren't available elsewhere, then it is a good purchase.

Regarding Metroid Prime, rating games is relative to what ratings they have given in the past. If they do something stupid and give Halo a 9.6, then when something better like Metroid Prime comes along, they need to give it something higher to be consistent, and thats what they did. Also, I don't care what developor makes a game if the game is good, so what does it matter if Metroid Prime was delegated to another team, they did such a good job with it that it was obviously the best thing to do.

Ninja Gaiden is the other XBOX title along with Fable that I have interest in seeing how they turn out, but that is two games compared to the list of GC games I gave earlier.

Phloggy: Yes an XBOX may be better suited to someone who is clearly a PC gamer and not a console gamer, but as a console the GC is better.

 

[spawn]

No im saying that the GC is a bad purchase because the software is more expensive and the VERY few titles that ARE better than everything else are certainly not enough to justify the purchase of one when the vast majority of the GC library is also available on XBOX and PS2..

Nintendo havent been able to top themselves, but others have caught up. Id say Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid for instance are just about good enough to compete with Nintendos best. There might still be a gap in quality, but its only very small these days.

Metroid Prime would have been better had it been made by Nintendo themselves. If Halo is a 9.6, Metroid Prime is about 14. Halo is over rated, as is Metroid Prime. When Deus Ex, a 4 year old pc game is better than both of them, you know you have problems. Even Half Life is better than them both and thats what, 6 years old now?

 

[Blitzkrieg]

No im saying that the GC is a bad purchase because the software is more expensive and the VERY few titles that ARE better than everything else are certainly not enough to justify the purchase of one when the vast majority of the GC library is also available on XBOX and PS2..

I already talked about the prices of software, and the price of the hardware is cheaper, so price is not a factor. Also, you have things backwards, it is most of the quality XBOX games that are available elsewhere, where the GC has a whole host of games unavailabe on other systems. We are back to the same original arguement again now. All those games I listed earlier are quality GC exclusives, and the GC also has majority of the quality XBOX titles as well, so it is the GC with the better library of games.

Nintendo havent been able to top themselves, but others have caught up. Id say Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid for instance are just about good enough to compete with Nintendos best. There might still be a gap in quality, but its only very small these days.

Exactly, some games have ALMOST caught up, but Nintendo still lead the field for the time being. Also, you only listed two games, and Nintendo have a MGS in the works that will blow MGS1 and 2 away.

Metroid Prime would have been better had it been made by Nintendo themselves. If Halo is a 9.6, Metroid Prime is about 14. Halo is over rated, as is Metroid Prime. When Deus Ex, a 4 year old pc game is better than both of them, you know you have problems. Even Half Life is better than them both and thats what, 6 years old now?

Yes, but we are talking about the GC vs the XBOX, nothing to do with PCs. And if the GC's best is better than the XBOX's best, has more quality exclusive games, and majority of good games for the XBOX are available on both, which is better?

 

[spawn]

The GC has 4 brilliant exclusive titles. Thats it. You mustnt look very hard when you go to the store to buy games as 75 percent of GC titles are available on other systems.

The MGS on the GC is a remake of the first MG game with a few new bits. How original and refreshing to have better graphics on a Playstation game. Almost smells like Resident Evil to me, new graphics on a last generation Playstation game, then try and sell it as a new game because there are a couple of new areas.

You already went on and on about how most of the XBOX games are pc ports, id take Deus Ex and Half Life (is half life on XBOX? It must be...?) on XBOX over Metroid Prime, in spite of the controller, which you can just buy a replacement one thats better anyway.