Who you leaning towards in 2008 Presidential Election?

Rock the Vote (With your cack out)

  • Rudy "I love faggoths" Giuliani

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • That midget liberal who looks like an old Guardian of Darkness

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    64
Once again, how is this difference than the people investigating Joe the Plumber for asking a fucking question? Someone in Obama's family is living in the US illegally after being told to leave all the while Obama's campaign is receiving illegal donations from this illegal immigrant... she's totally off limits. Joe The Plumber questioned our Martyr though! DEAR GOD NO!
 
Once again, how is this difference than the people investigating Joe the Plumber for asking a fucking question?

Joe asks Obama a question, in which Obama answered. In his very long answer (conveniently forgotten except for...) he uttered the words "spreading the wealth around."

Obama goes on, but then McCain seized on those 4 words at the 3rd debate. Joe was not investigated until McCain himself made him a celebrity (thanks for that, jackass), so blame McCain for that one. Hell, he's even campaigned (and failed to show up) for McCain.

It's not Obama keeping the Joe the unlicensed Plumber in the spotlight. He's been a critical piece of McCain's campiagn, so of course he's going to be investigated.

Obama's aunt hasn't exactly been a central theme in his campaign. Huge difference. Though it's surprisingly convenient that this popped up just now.
 
Joe asks Obama a question, in which Obama answered. In his very long answer (conveniently forgotten except for...) he uttered the words "spreading the wealth around."

Obama goes on, but then McCain seized on those 4 words at the 3rd debate. Joe was not investigated until McCain himself made him a celebrity (thanks for that, jackass), so blame McCain for that one. Hell, he's even campaigned (and stood up) for McCain.

It's not Obama keeping the Joe the unlicensed Plumber in the spotlight. He's been a critical piece of McCain's campiagn, so of course he's going to be investigated.

Obama's aunt hasn't exactly been a central theme in his campaign. Huge difference. Though it's surprisingly convenient that this popped up just now.

Actually, he was already a celebrity (on the internet, atleast) since the video was all over youtube and any news site that wasn't CNN or MSNBC.

BTW, if you investigate most of the plumbers in Ohio, you'll find most of them don't have a license. It's not a requirement in Ohio. However, for his business he wants to make, he'll have to get a contractors license.

Obama's aunt has been a part to his books and has been mentioned on a few occasions. Obama right now is saying he had no clue that his own aunt, whom attended pretty much every ceremony the man was a part of, was in the US illegally, despite having been here for more than 4 years. His statement:

"Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed."

Saving face or blatantly lying? The man's seen the woman several times for various events, but somehow had no clue about her status? And how the fuck did she get an apartment, and maintain living status within it, with the boston housing authority? It's your call.
 
Which is more likely:
Hey Nephew! Guess what, I'm here illegally? pull some strings and get me a green card?

Or

Hey Nephew! Hows things? I'm good too! Oh, not much new, the usual.


The big questions I have:
1. What does Sarah Palin think of the porno being made about here? Abstinence is great so its a good thing?
2. Will her husband/son considering purchasing it?
 
I'm glad to see you've done your homework :)err:)



Yep, it's a conspiracy. A junior senator from Illinois has convinced (paid off maybe?) the Boston Housing Authority to let his aunt remain living there illegally. I bet he even filed fraudulent papers. Quick! Better do some "research"! Maybe check here: www.conservapedia.com

Also, just how the hell would Obama know about her resident status? Perhaps she told him that she was legal. "Okay auntie, I believe you".

You're really trying to get some political mileage out of this story aren't you? :lol:

Not really trying to get milage, I just fucking HATE illegal immigrants who parasitically feed off American institutions. That apartment she lives in could damn well be used for some other low income family of american citizens who could really use the place. Instead, she's clogged it up for 5 years, somehow going under the radar of the Boston Housing Authority. How the fuck does someone go 5 years in that sort of public housing without someone saying "oh wait, she's illegal", surely someone should have done some sort of fucking background check. It took the AP about 24 hours to figure this out. Someone had to have helped her, obviously. Not saying it was Obama, but surely he and his campaign should have become slightly suspicious at some point when his aunt was donating (illegally) money from her Boston (tax dollar funded) residence for the past while...

Fuck that.
 
I shall. It's the only thing on the news this morning (fuck, even CNN made a few mentions of it, must have some weekend workers that actually give half a shit).
 
Eric, are you a 9/11 conspiracy theorist as well? Just curious, you seem to be quite conspiracy-minded.

Fuck no.

Those guys are whack jobs. You honestly think any of those idiots would vote for McCain? These are the same people who honestly believe we're living in a police state and that bush and the republican party are "facists". :lol:
 
EricT, I'm pretty sure nobody in this thread gives a fuck about Joe the faggot any more than they care about Clicky Clicky the illegal immigrant aunt. Neither of these fucking people are relevant to the candidates. Also, as far as I'm aware, she was NEVER brought up during any of Obama's campaign events, and only mentioned in one of his books in passing. She is his half-aunt on his mother's side. If the fact that she's an illegal immigrant is what bothers you, then maybe you should have posted this in a separate thread and not one about the presidential candidates.
 
only mentioned in one of his books in passing. She is his half-aunt on his mother's side.
haha

"Ms Onyango was the first Kenyan relative to welcome Mr Obama on his first visit to his father's homeland in 1988, and she is a large character in his best-selling memoir Dreams From My Father."
 
EricT, I'm pretty sure nobody in this thread gives a fuck about Joe the faggot any more than they care about Clicky Clicky the illegal immigrant aunt. Neither of these fucking people are relevant to the candidates. Also, as far as I'm aware, she was NEVER brought up during any of Obama's campaign events, and only mentioned in one of his books in passing. She is his half-aunt on his mother's side. If the fact that she's an illegal immigrant is what bothers you, then maybe you should have posted this in a separate thread and not one about the presidential candidates.

Why make another thread for something that is partly relevant to the matter at hand in this thread (AKA, I and a few others defend mccain, a few people defend obama, and then a few just sit around and ask why they bothered to read all this shit tossing).

Anyway, as neal posted she's been mentioned in his books on a moderately decent scale (more so than his half brothers and sisters), he's brought her up in slight manners in a few speeches, and she's on his fathers side, not his mothers.
 
haha

"Ms Onyango was the first Kenyan relative to welcome Mr Obama on his first visit to his father's homeland in 1988, and she is a large character in his best-selling memoir Dreams From My Father."

The "mother's side" was a typo. :oops: I haven't read the book (I have a feeling nobody has here), but it was my understanding that she didn't figure very prominently in the memoir. Either way, it's a non-issue.

edit:

Obama says he didn't know aunt's illegal status



CHICAGO – Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Saturday he didn't know his aunt was living in the United States illegally and believes that laws covering the situation should be followed.

The Associated Press found that Obama's aunt had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya. The woman, Zeituni Onyango (zay-TUHN on-YANG-oh), is living in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.

A statement given to the AP by Obama's campaign said, "Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed." Traveling with Obama in Nevada, campaign strategist David Axelrod declined to elaborate on the statement, but said: "I think people are suspicious about stories that surface in the last 72 hours of a national campaign."

An adviser to Republican John McCain's campaign, Mark Salter, said he had no comment on the reports about Obama's relative. "It's a family matter," Salter said.

The campaign said it was returning $260 that Onyango had contributed in small increments to Obama's presidential bid over several months. Federal election law prohibits foreigners from making political donations. Onyango listed her employer as the Boston Housing Authority and last gave $5 on Sept. 19.

Onyango, 56, is part of Obama's large paternal family, with many related to him by blood whom he never knew growing up.

Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., left the future presidential nominee when the boy was 2, and they reunited only once — for a monthlong visit when Obama was 10. The elder Obama lived most of his life in Kenya, where he fathered seven other children with three other wives. He died in a car crash in 1982.

Obama was raised for the most part by his mother and her parents in Hawaii. He first met his father's side of the family when he traveled to Africa 20 years ago. He referred to Onyango as "Auntie Zeituni" when describing the trip in his memoir, saying she was "a proud woman."

Obama's campaign said he had seen her a few times since that meeting, beginning with a return trip to Kenya with his future wife, Michelle, in 1992. Onyango visited the family in Chicago on a tourist visa at Obama's invitation about nine years ago, the campaign said, stopping to visit friends on the East Coast before returning to Kenya.

She attended Obama's swearing-in to the U.S. Senate in 2004, but campaign officials said Obama provided no assistance in getting her a tourist visa and doesn't know the details of her stay. The campaign said he last heard from her about two years ago when she called saying she was in Boston, but he did not see her there.


Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, noncriminal violation of immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the U.S.

The AP could not immediately reach Onyango for comment. When a reporter went to her home Friday night, no one answered the door. A neighbor said she was often not home on weekends. Onyango did not immediately return telephone and written messages left at her home.

Onyango was instructed to leave the country by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case.

It was unclear why her request was rejected in 2004. A spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Kelly Nantel, said the government does not comment on an individual's citizenship status or immigration case.

Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

Onyango's case — coming to light just days before the presidential election — led to an unusual nationwide directive within Immigrations and Customs Enforcement requiring that any deportations before Tuesday's election be approved at least at the level of the agency's regional directors, the U.S. law enforcement official told the AP.

The directive suggests that the administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.

The East African nation has been fractured by violence in recent years, including a period of two months of bloodshed after December 2007 that killed 1,500 people.

In Boston, Lydia Agro, communications director for the Housing Authority, said Onyango had been screened and approved for public housing as an "eligible non-citizen" when she moved in in 2003. She said the authority is not notified of deportation orders and did not know Onyango was related to Obama until two days ago.

Agro said the authority doesn't believe it needs to take any action to remove Onyango from public housing despite the order.


She said that although Onyango entered the system under federal guidelines in a federal development, she now lives in a state-funded development. State law forbids the authority from even asking Onyango about her immigration status. That means the federal deportation order has no bearing on Onyango's eligibility for the state-funded project where she lives, Agro said.

"We're not convinced that the deportation decision will affect her housing at all right now," she said.

"She's been a very good resident," she added.
 
The "mother's side" was a typo. :oops: I haven't read the book (I have a feeling nobody has here),
I've read it and I have the book right next to me.

My Daddy didn't even know my name the day he expired. He kept calling out "White Rain", bring me my boy "White Rain." See the day that my Kenya Kotohey grazed the plains of my mother Ann's Serengeti there was a 60% chance of scattered showers forecasted by the Hoodoo Obeah High Priest. It wasn't until the age of 11 months that my mother named me "Barack". Named after the two things in the hut she kept banging her head against. The bar of LAVA that the entire village shared and the rack of spears in which they used to hunt for bush meat.


Dreams of My Father - Ch3 Page 79
 
In Boston, Lydia Agro, communications director for the Housing Authority, said Onyango had been screened and approved for public housing as an "eligible non-citizen" when she moved in in 2003. She said the authority is not notified of deportation orders and did not know Onyango was related to Obama until two days ago.

Agro said the authority doesn't believe it needs to take any action to remove Onyango from public housing despite the order.

She said that although Onyango entered the system under federal guidelines in a federal development, she now lives in a state-funded development. State law forbids the authority from even asking Onyango about her immigration status. That means the federal deportation order has no bearing on Onyango's eligibility for the state-funded project where she lives, Agro said.

"We're not convinced that the deportation decision will affect her housing at all right now," she said.

"She's been a very good resident," she added.

That sickens me. They should be required to give substantial proof that they're not ordered for deportation. What the fuck is wrong with this nation?

Anyway, so obama wants to create a civilian "national security force".

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

What the fuck would a civilian national security force encompass? Just as well funded as the military? And you're getting this money, where?

I can't wait for him to win so we can finally here the words "yeah, all that shit I promised... can't do it. sorry folks. Enjoy 4 years of the same shit!"
 
Do you actually think anybody ever keeps their fucking promises? All politicians promise more than they can deliver, and in this election especially, both candidates no matter who is elected will inevitably fall well short of their promises due to the state of the country and of the world. It's just not possible to get done what either wants to get done. The only difference is that Obama has at least conceded that this is likely, where McCain just continues to say "I know how to do this, I know how to do that", instead of acknowledging that he's not going to be able to do everything he wants to do.
 
In Barack Hussein Obama's defense, I don't think he even knew what he was talking about when he said that. The man can't debate himself out of a paper bag, therefore he relies on shadowy sermons to mask the reality that he is only a 3rd year Senator.
 
fuck this nonsense ... going to hang out Tuesday night doing this:

Watch the election returns with Colin Quinn and the Comedy Cellar comedians.

For fun this year we’re trying something we’ve never done before. Upstairs at the Olive Tree Cafe (right above the Comedy Cellar) we’ll be showing the election returns on screens throughout the room. We’ll have mics at the comedians’ table, where Colin Quinn and a steady stream of Comedy Cellar regulars (a la Tough Crowd) will be providing a running commentary. There’s sure to be some hilariously funny moments as well as some raucous debating and arguing.

This is a once in a lifetime election, and a one of a kind way to experience it.

anyone else going to some kind of election night party???

oh yean and ... http://therealbillmaher.blogspot.com/