why does "The Gathering Wilderness" suck so much?

[Necro Joe]

I couldn't care less if you like his vocals but going on about how the singer of a metal band 'can't sing' is like saying that punk bands don't play enough guitar solos. The point is that his (actually very tuneful) singing fits the music, lyrics and overall atmosphere of Primordial more perfectly than pretty much any other band I can think of. The point is that metal is a genre of music where flawless execution is not as important as raw, honest emotion. The point is that whether someone has a popstar's voice shouldn't be an indication of what 'good singing' means in metal.

 

[Carcassian]

I couldn't care less if you like his vocals but going on about how the singer of a metal band 'can't sing' is like saying that punk bands don't play enough guitar solos. The point is that his (actually very tuneful) singing fits the music, lyrics and overall atmosphere of Primordial more perfectly than pretty much any other band I can think of. The point is that metal is a genre of music where flawless execution is not as important as raw, honest emotion. The point is that whether someone has a popstar's voice shouldn't be an indication of what 'good singing' means in metal.

His vocals capture perfectly an atmosphere of desperation, despair and ragged determination. An awesome performance. Do his vocals add to the atmosphere? Definitely.

What are vocals for in metal? Generally not for carrying melody, unless in power/trad metal. Atmos, baby, it's all in the atmos.

 

[Necro Joe]

Damn. Fucking. Straight.

 

[unknown]

Atmos, baby, it's all in the atmos.

haha I love that line

 

[Carcassian]

haha I love that line

I'm not just here for Carcass discussions

 

[Stormwatch]

going on about how the singer of a metal band 'can't sing' is like saying that punk bands don't play enough guitar solos.

Yes. Because it's a known fact metal singers have always been shite. You know, Bruce Dickinson, Rob Halford, Tim Owens, Ronnie Dio etc etc. All shite.
Which just proves your point. Obviously.

 

[unknown]

so why don't you listen to instrumental metal?

 

[CF87]

There is more to metal music than 80's sounding vocals. I'm so sick of people that want others to sound like halford and dickinson. Both are great vocalists and all but it's not 1980 forever. Both vocalist while being good are sill fucking gay.

Tim Owens is a halford wannabee and his lyrics are crap. The guy does not have anything he can call his because he sucks at trying to be someone else.

 

[Demilich]

The production - along with the vocals - are fucking perfect and flawless for their contribution to the atmosphere that makes this album so great!

I especially love the last song, "Cities Carved in Stone."

 

[Necro Joe]

Yes. Because it's a known fact metal singers have always been shite. You know, Bruce Dickinson, Rob Halford, Tim Owens, Ronnie Dio etc etc. All shite.
Which just proves your point. Obviously.

Go back to my post and try your hardest to understand what my point actually is, then we'll talk.

 

[Stormwatch]

Go back to my post and try your hardest to understand what my point actually is, then we'll talk.

Shan't.

 

[Carcassian]

There is more to metal music than 80's sounding vocals. I'm so sick of people that want others to sound like halford and dickinson. Both are great vocalists and all but it's not 1980 forever. Both vocalist while being good are sill fucking gay.

Tim Owens is a halford wannabee and his lyrics are crap. The guy does not have anything he can call his because he sucks at trying to be someone else.

Yeah, thank God that all growlers and shriekers sound utterly different to each other

 

[CF87]

I have no problem telling the difference between raspy vocals. I actually find their to be more different sounding growled vocals than power metal vocals. I can only think of probably five distinct clean vocalists that all sound different or even really good at singing.

 

[Carcassian]

Could that be because, generally, you don't listen to many clean vocalists ?

 

[CF87]

Probably. I like some clean vocalists but rarely do 'like clean vocalists' in general.

 

[skeptik]

I have no problem telling the difference between raspy vocals. I actually find their to be more different sounding growled vocals than power metal vocals. I can only think of probably five distinct clean vocalists that all sound different or even really good at singing.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen you type, to be honest.

 

[Mort Divine]

There is more to metal music than 80's sounding vocals. I'm so sick of people that want others to sound like halford and dickinson. Both are great vocalists and all but it's not 1980 forever. Both vocalist while being good are sill fucking gay.

Tim Owens is a halford wannabee and his lyrics are crap. The guy does not have anything he can call his because he sucks at trying to be someone else.

You have obviously never listened to Winter's Bane.

EDIT: Where the fuck'd my Stephanie signature go?

 

[Carcassian]

That signature gif, when combined with the heart-i-con is positively paedophilic.

 

[Mort Divine]

Meh, she is 15, I'm 16 ... it isn't bad

 

[Carcassian]

15 dressed as a 10 yr old ...