666!

[Powers]

Well said. Also check out Bishop Shelby Spong's "The Sins of Scripture". Great for learning about the idiocy of literal interpretation.

Like I say it's a fascinatinf fairy story, though badly written and ridelled with continuity errors.

In truth, the Abrahamic religions automatically shoot themselves in the foot by creating a monotheistic, omipresent, all knowing God who also feels anger and sadness. An omnipresent God who still feels impulsive emotions such as anger is simply impossible.

 

[Kenneth R.]

according to human logic, yes. according to human logic, turning water into wine or parting a sea is also pretty impossible. but then, what supernatural being can be considered supernatural if they do not display capabilities beyond those applicable to mankind?

 

[Ten SiSi]

Interestingly enough that song is one of the few which suggests that the number of man is neither 777 or 666, as these are the numbers of God and Satan respectivley, but that the number of man is infact 555. As Angels are closer to God than humans and Satan is a fallen Angel, it isn't completely rediculous that this could be the case.

But in the case of Slipknot it's probably just coincidence, I doubt they were putting forth a structured and researched arguement for reconsideration of the exact date of the apolcalypse.

The number of man is 3. The number of infinite power is 6. So three sixes is a man with infinite power. Quite childish if you ask me. Most of christianity is.

 

[Leandro]

The number of the beast is actually 116.

 

[Powers]

according to human logic, yes. according to human logic, turning water into wine or parting a sea is also pretty impossible. but then, what supernatural being can be considered supernatural if they do not display capabilities beyond those applicable to mankind?

It's a nice fairy story but a rediculous religion and it was just really really lucky to be the religion adopted by all the major empires of the western world, Rome, Britain and France, then finally America.

Much as Islam was in the middle east, with Judaism briging up the rear.

 

[Powers]

The number of man is 3. The number of infinite power is 6. So three sixes is a man with infinite power. Quite childish if you ask me. Most of christianity is.

Could you explain this further please? I find it very interesting.

 

[Ten SiSi]

lol @ all these "facts". The fact is: If you devote your life to a religion=automoron

 

[Ten SiSi]

Could you explain this further please? I find it very interesting.

Something that is amazingly interesting is that all of these numbers that the bibles used to represent certain emotions, people, places. All these numbers are from pegan religions. PEGAN RELIGIONS. Don't you find something fishy about that?

 

[Leandro]

It's a nice fairy story but a rediculous religion and it was just really really lucky to be the religion adopted by all the major empires of the western world, Rome, Britain and France, then finally America.

Much as Islam was in the middle east, with Judaism briging up the rear.

With religion came organization and control. An organized and faithful nation is stronger than a hedonistic one. Luck had nothing to do with it.

 

[soundave]

Like I say it's a fascinatinf fairy story, though badly written and ridelled with continuity errors.

In truth, the Abrahamic religions automatically shoot themselves in the foot by creating a monotheistic, omipresent, all knowing God who also feels anger and sadness. An omnipresent God who still feels impulsive emotions such as anger is simply impossible.

Monotheism is a great way to keep debate to a minimum. If GOD wants it, then who's to argue? One can imagine in polytheistic religions that blind adherence is less common. Kind of like having a dictator versus a democracy. Mussilini kept the trains running on time, they say. In times of great strife, when leadership is needed for immediate solutions, a dictator comes in handy. Note that the Judeo Christian faiths are desert religions... I take kind of a Marxist view on this, that the mode of production has a huge impact on the form of governance and, consequently religion.

 

[Ten SiSi]

IF you didn't have a swirling badger penis in your sig, i'd start to think you know what you're talking about

 

[Ten SiSi]

Monotheism is a great way to keep debate to a minimum.

I believe it was Napoleon that said "Religion is excellent stuff for keeping the common people quiet."

 

[Ken Lyall]

Am I seriously being this much of a pedantic asshole?

Not at all, you have obviously done your research. I bow to you. Like i said with age comes insanity, oop's sentility (and bad spelling!)

 

[Kenneth R.]

lol clearly i must be a moron for trying to discuss religion in a thread called 666! started by atheists.

 

[Leandro]

IF you didn't have a swirling badger penis in your sig, i'd start to think you know what you're talking about

Wow I'm flattered

btw

The number of man is 3. The number of infinite power is 6. So three sixes is a man with infinite power. Quite childish if you ask me. Most of christianity is.

what about 333333?

I believe it was Napoleon that said "Religion is excellent stuff for keeping the common people quiet."

Perhaps machiavel.

 

[Powers]

I disagree, I've no problem with people who have faith in something greater than themselves. I always said that if I was going to believe "God" or moreover, faith, was anything it is a code of ethics a moral guide. I wouldn't be suprised if that's what it orginally was closer to, but the Church propogates a more militarisitic idea, with an actaully God and Satan, and Heaven and Hell, concrete concepts of good and evil rather than abstract ones.

In a strange way I respect people who have faith, or at the least envy them, cause' I as an educted aethistic Westerner am for too cynical to have faith. Organised religons are where my issue lies, because they're all exculsionsist all believing they have the chosen the right path. When really it shouldn't matter waht faith you are, but simply that you have faith. Instead these religions attempt to oppress and subjugate people, with threats and blackmail, into supporting them.

 

[soundave]

Not at all, you have obviously done your research. I bow to you. Like i said with age comes insanity, oop's sentility

Whew! Thanks. Now I can go on with the rest of my day... You're a good man, Ken.

 

[Powers]

Something that is amazingly interesting is that all of these numbers that the bibles used to represent certain emotions, people, places. All these numbers are from pegan religions. PEGAN RELIGIONS. Don't you find something fishy about that?

It's actaully been found that the first celebration around the 25th of December was some 2000 years before the recorded birth of Christ.

 

[Death_To_False_Metal]

I really don't understand at all the concept of religions, God and all this shit ...
Religions are the first multinationals who had a marketing more agressive than all the Nasdaq firms combined ( back in the day you could rape and pillage in the name of God, those were the days ...)


Anyway, Satan is still a lot more fun but I am disapointed by these threads, nobody is really ready to celebrate this day with respect ?

Murder ?
Rape ?
Looting ?
Burning Churches, Old men ?
Disssecting your sister's dog (alive please) ?
Insulting a gay ?

Anybody ????

 

[Powers]

Monotheism is a great way to keep debate to a minimum. If GOD wants it, then who's to argue? One can imagine in polytheistic religions that blind adherence is less common. Kind of like having a dictator versus a democracy. Mussilini kept the trains running on time, they say. In times of great strife, when leadership is needed for immediate solutions, a dictator comes in handy. Note that the Judeo Christian faiths are desert religions... I take kind of a Marxist view on this, that the mode of production has a huge impact on the form of governance and, consequently religion.

Consider the anchient GreeK religion, in the stories from this religion the Gods were not omnipresent at all, they were not even the most powerful of entities, in fact they were two away from the metaphorical "top".

In some cases a particular God was able to do something without the knowledge of another, consider Hera attempting on numerous occasions to kill Zeus half son Hercles.

Some of you may find this fascinating The God Who Wasn't There(2005).