AAAAAAH, the new album!!!! Oh, and does nemuu and frenchie still suck?

[U[Sic]M]

Consider yourselves lucky: I took time out of my jampacked schedule to come here and post my opinion on the new In Flames-album.

First of all, the title. The title is extremely nifty and cleverly thought out: The Soundtrack to Your Escape. Don´t you see what they've done here? When people are trying to flee in horror and pain from ever having played the thing, it will be - yup, you guessed it - The Soundtrack to your Escape! Ahahaha, I can´t believe noone here figured that shit out! Well, actually, I can believe it.

S(e)condly, t(h)e s(o)ngtitles. W(e)ll... Dammit, this shit´s getting boring. I don´t feel inspired to troll and make fun of people here anymore. Where´s Mattias? The forums you recommended blew, you idiot! The moderator moderated like rahvin on heroin.

 

[Mattias the Bitch Boy]

Consider yourselves lucky: I took time out of my jampacked schedule to come here and post my opinion on the new In Flames-album.

First of all, the title. The title is extremely nifty and cleverly thought out: The Soundtrack to Your Escape. Don´t you see what they've done here? When people are trying to flee in horror and pain from ever having played the thing, it will be - yup, you guessed it - The Soundtrack to your Escape! Ahahaha, I can´t believe noone here figured that shit out! Well, actually, I can believe it.

S(e)condly, t(h)e s(o)ngtitles. W(e)ll... Dammit, this shit´s getting boring. I don´t feel inspired to troll and make fun of people here anymore. Where´s Mattias? The forums you recommended blew, you idiot! The moderator moderated like rahvin on heroin.

Well helloooo there!

First of all, the song title F(r)iend is pretty kuul innit? You see, there's TWO words in ONE word, this way. It implies that your friend is actually a fiend, and it's so clever that I just wanna die. The music sucks though.

Secondly, yes the PMS board is moderated heavily by Lifeless these days, but the power zone is totally moderator free! But it doesn't matter because I'm too mature to troll anyway. I'm not into that childish shit anymore, I'm all grown up now.

 

[U[Sic]M]

Yeah, I´m getting tired of trolling as well. Well, occasionally, it´s still fun, but only sometimes. Do you think rahvin would let us in the Dork Spankuillity-boards again now that we´re super-grown up and mature? I reeeaaally really hope so, I can´t wait for some of that high quality discussion that was rampant there the last time. Oh man, I´m feeling smarter just thinking about it...



Oh yeah, and are you still using that fruity Cubase?

 

[Occultor]

Hm.. You haven't heard the new cd, have you?

 

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no, theyre just being their usual immature selves

 

[SpiritCrusherX]

I have seen the song titles and I want to cry

 

[stefan86]

The new cd is gonna be a Soundtrack To Severe Violence Towards Anders Fridens Lyric Writing

 

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I have seen the song titles and I want to cry

why. they are just song titles. and they aren't even that bad, certainly not as bad as "BODOM BEACH TERROR!" or "TRIPLE CORPSE HAMMERBLOW!" or "LI'L BLOODRED RIDIN' HOOD"

 

[stefan86]

At least Children of Bodom have brilliant guitar harmonies and good vocs, which IF dont have these days

 

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So what you're saying is that its not okay to use the song titles as an argument against the band, as long as you like the music.... but its okay to use them against a band if you don't think you will like the music? Arguing and bitching about song titles is fucking stupid.

There are plenty of great guitar harmonies in recent IF (songs like Dark Signs, Minus, etc.... excellent guitar parts, its a completely different style from CoB, its like comparing apples to oranges), its just that they decided to do more than just that. Not every song has to based on "brilliant guitar harmonies". Others, like System and Black and White are thrash-riff driven. Its a very diverse and excellent album. Vocals? Friden has never been my favorite, and Ill admit the vocals overall on RTR aren't the greatest I have heard, but there are some good vocal melodies. Alexi's vocals are more agressive and suited to the more agressive music. Again, apples to oranges. imo.

It's all opinion, I think the riffs and melodies and songwriting on RTR are great. And I love HCDR as well.

 

[stefan86]

Theres another point too.
CoB has never been about lyrics or titles that had a meaning, it has always been about guitar harmonies and stunning musicianship.
Alexi uses his vocs more as an instrument in the music than a way to express himself.
They have always been more or less of an non-serious band lyrically.

In Flames on the other hand, had a very big focus on well-written and original lyrics/titles with a lot of emotion.
Now they're constantly moving more and more towards being a less demanding listen and being easier to understand.
Thats why one-word song titles without no actual meaning or relevance showed up on RTR (Minus, Trigger, Metaphor), and thats why the new ones are even cheesier.
The less original elements and the more common language they'll use, the more mainstreamers will they pick up and the more real fans they'll alienate.
So I guess thats a very suiting thing for them to do considering what they want to accomplish in these days.

 

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In Flames on the other hand, had a very big focus on well-written and original lyrics/titles with a lot of emotion.
Now they're constantly moving more and more towards being a less demanding listen and being easier to understand.
Thats why one-word song titles without no actual meaning or relevance showed up on RTR (Minus, Trigger, Metaphor), and thats why the new ones are even cheesier.
The less original elements and the more common language they'll use, the more mainstreamers will they pick up and the more real fans they'll alienate.
So I guess thats a very suiting thing for them to do considering what they want to accomplish in these days.

So your saying that they are "selling out" in a way by having one-word or "common" song titles basically. And how do you know they have no meaning or relevance. I've never cared for the lyrics of IF, they can say whatever the hell they want to say. And the lyrics are less cryptic, but they are just lyrics, and they are stil well written.

And another thing.... by naming songs with more "common" words rather than "Artifacts of the Black Rain" or "Goliaths Disarm Their Davids" that would cause more mainstreamers to listen to them? bullshit. People aren't that fucking stupid, give them credit. Like I said before, song titles have nothing to do with anything, bringing them up in an argument against a band like you are doing is just pointless. Now you are just nitpicking, dissecting any pointless little detail you can to bash (dont start with that "evil bashurs" crap, "bash" is just the word I always use for "insulting" or saying anything negative about, its common vocab for me) the album.

 

[stefan86]

I dont wanna give people credit since I believe a majority of the people in this world are stupid.
The fact is, that the less original and the more positive vibes there is in the music, the more listeners you get.
I might be cynical, but thats what I think.

As for song titles, I actually think its a pretty good argument in this case.
Since Whoracle they have gone more and more towards conversational language in titles and lyrics, which indeed gives more mainstream acceptance.

But speaking about the actual music, I would really like to have heard what RTR would have sounded like if produced in Studio Fredman.
3 or 4 songs lack those RTR parts I cant stand and has decent riffs, but I still cant enjoy it because of the horrid drum and guitar sounds.

 

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I dont wanna give people credit since I believe a majority of the people in this world are stupid.
The fact is, that the less original and the more positive vibes there is in the music, the more listeners you get.
I might be cynical, but thats what I think.

I will agree that there is more positive vibes and this is more accesable, but not by much, IF have always been accesable. I think the music is very good/ I defend people because I was once a big nu-metal fan.... I am not anymore, but back when I was I was just like I am now.... I listened simply because I liked the music. More people just like the music than you think. They aren't all "posers" or "trendy" like so many metalheads say.

As for song titles, I actually think its a pretty good argument in this case.
Since Whoracle they have gone more and more towards conversational language in titles and lyrics, which indeed gives more mainstream acceptance.

Not at all. Nobody looks for whether or not a band has simple lyrics when deciding whether or not to get into them, unless you are something like Dashboard Confessional, where 13 year old girls love listening to this guy whine about breakups and girlfriends. But thats a whole different ballgame.

But speaking about the actual music, I would really like to have heard what RTR would have sounded like if produced in Studio Fredman.
3 or 4 songs lack those RTR parts I cant stand and has decent riffs, but I still cant enjoy it because of the horrid drum and guitar sounds.

That's fair enough. Your opinion.

 

[stefan86]

I was also a numetal fan once before I discovered depth and musicianship in music, and I wouldnt call any numetal fans poseurs.
I'd rather call them underinformed about what metal actually is.
Usually takes a couple of years to get into the "real" bands.
I just hate the fact that record companies and other commercialising elements tend to eat up bands that once stood for something good and sounded original and excellent (In Flames, Soilwork, Metallica).
But when it comes to which bands who has done what its all down to opinions, the only band everyone agrees about is Metallica

 

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Yes, Metallica can be agreed on thouroughly.

 

[stefan86]

Well, this discussion was a really good one.
Usually these things end up in a 5 ppl vs 5 other ppl bashing spree.

 

[[0hr]Sunlapse]

Yes, this was nice.

 

[The Heartless]

In Flames on the other hand, had a very big focus on well-written and original lyrics/titles with a lot of emotion.
Now they're constantly moving more and more towards being a less demanding listen and being easier to understand.
Thats why one-word song titles without no actual meaning or relevance showed up on RTR (Minus, Trigger, Metaphor), and thats why the new ones are even cheesier.
The less original elements and the more common language they'll use, the more mainstreamers will they pick up and the more real fans they'll alienate.
So I guess thats a very suiting thing for them to do considering what they want to accomplish in these days.

I desagree, you have a point saying that lyrics have more common language or are cheesier, but that`s maybe because of the hard time Anders had after ending a relationship (That's what he has said), so he's just being true to himself, and trying to let out of him all the things he got inside. I don't think it has to do with becoming more mainstream, it has to do with try to get these things out of you.

 

[Xzar]

Hahahaa =D

Totally agree on Metallica!