And Obama wins!!!
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SilentRealm
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i'm not disappointed. im pretty excited about it actually! but im not american so i don't count haha.
Belgar
The Wallonian Redneck.
Same shit, if you even look deeply in his core values, he is even worse than Bush. But as Biden and Powell have recently said, his presidency and the will of the american people will be tested within the next 6 months. I don't want to be too pessimistic, but I think the US will have to face another 9/11 (again organised by the US gov.) or there will for sure be another front opened either in Iran/Syria with Israel, or somehow thru Russia/ Pakistan.
Might sound stupid right now, but pls mark this post, and let's talk later in April. I can assure you shit is going on, and it ain't going good.
To me, the core values of the US constitution have already been destroyed, and this country is looking more and more like Germany early 1930's. The forefathers would probably roll in their own graves out of shame. The recent "supposed" democratic congress has done nothing but follow the same footsteps than the previous tyranny and oligarchy of Bush's cronies. This country, much like the Romans, Greeks, etc empire is doom to fail, and it is bound to happen, very very soon.
I only hope many of you living in the US have signed up and registered for your last line of defence. Study the Bill of Rights and Constitution. Obama, will strip you away from your guns. It's just a matter of time. This country and the world will deeply regret Obama as new puppet new world order ruler, while everything around them will crumble, like empires of old. First they will take away your money, then your freedom (ask England), then your rights, then under false assumption of freedom from supposed enemies, will assure you false sense of security. This is history happening all over again. Read Machiaveli, this is the roadmap he hd always predicted.
I am sorry to sound negative, but this world is going nowhere unless the people take their freedom back.
Might sound stupid right now, but pls mark this post, and let's talk later in April. I can assure you shit is going on, and it ain't going good.
To me, the core values of the US constitution have already been destroyed, and this country is looking more and more like Germany early 1930's. The forefathers would probably roll in their own graves out of shame. The recent "supposed" democratic congress has done nothing but follow the same footsteps than the previous tyranny and oligarchy of Bush's cronies. This country, much like the Romans, Greeks, etc empire is doom to fail, and it is bound to happen, very very soon.
I only hope many of you living in the US have signed up and registered for your last line of defence. Study the Bill of Rights and Constitution. Obama, will strip you away from your guns. It's just a matter of time. This country and the world will deeply regret Obama as new puppet new world order ruler, while everything around them will crumble, like empires of old. First they will take away your money, then your freedom (ask England), then your rights, then under false assumption of freedom from supposed enemies, will assure you false sense of security. This is history happening all over again. Read Machiaveli, this is the roadmap he hd always predicted.
I am sorry to sound negative, but this world is going nowhere unless the people take their freedom back.
Bates
Swamp Yankee
I'll just be happy that I don't have to listen to Palin. I've lived in some of the most redneck parts of the country, and I've never heard anyone talk as "folksy" as her, outside of a parody.
GuitarRage99
Across The Rainbow Bridge
I really could care less... But Obama was my pick if I would've voted, I'm just not looking forward to watching the news and seeing that he was assassinated by some white power nazi cunts... Hopefully that time wont come but only so much is inevitable.:Smug:
Fenrisúlfr
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You took the words right out of my mouth, although I do not quite get the world order issue.
They cannot take your money if it is stored as gold and silver. Freedom one must fight for.
Krigloch the Furious
Pants full of poo
Belgar
The Wallonian Redneck.
Dood, just look at his voting record in past 10 years, at his affiliation to CFR. Don't just look at what numbnumts at Fox or CNN are telling you. This guy is worse than Bush. Not that McCain was close to being better, but this presidency is signaling the descent of the US empire into total red alert and tyranny.
Look at their voting records on the US constitution acts.
Obama will never pull out of Iraq, if all, he will shift all to Afghanistan ... like I said, get back to me come April. Something is going to happen big time. Might not be here in US, but something is going to happen big around Iran/Russia/Pakistan that will affect all of us.
My nearest prediction, is the total collapse of the credit card empire. Why do you think Sarkozy, etc the US closest ally have been pushing all of the EU and Asia for a one world currency.
Why will he make France's goal to have Ireland revote on the EU constituion until they ratify it. Read the treaty, read the US senate acts, and maybe you migh see what is going on. Why is the US army for the first time in its history moving 3 Iraq brigades on US soil to deal with supposed civil "unrest".
Maybe I am paranoid, but I just know that none of these scumbags have any of our interest in mind, and history has taught me that it will nevern change.
I hope you can cut and paste my post by '09 and prove me wrong, sadly, I think it will happen.
Lukasz
You mean coitus?
Its no secret that the two party system is flawed and im sure Obama will become corrupt with time but he was the lesser of the two evils.
I know that the NEW WORLD ORDER movement is looked down upon as a way of stripping away your freedom, however from a view of sustainability it seem to be the only way to regulate human consumption and economic growth.
I know that the NEW WORLD ORDER movement is looked down upon as a way of stripping away your freedom, however from a view of sustainability it seem to be the only way to regulate human consumption and economic growth.
Fenrisúlfr
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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely; if the make such a move toward such an order, they will be hearing from me and my arsenal.
Belgar
The Wallonian Redneck.
Will become corrupt?
Just look at the fucking $ contribution, you dont spend close to 1/2 a billion dollars on a fucking campaign if there was not some kind of lobbyism.
The lesser of 2 evil would have been to give a voice to the some 15+ 3rd partis that never got to speak up about their program. That in itself tells me the whole fucking system in the US is just flawed.
By all means, don't anybody dare tell me Obama is some kind of American hero.
I hope that when he is sworn president, he will at least pretend to swear an oath on the bible, which he has so far always refused to do.
The US will turn out just like France did, a hope for change that will end up being a lot more worse.
I am laughing out of sadness at this presidency, as it is the worse thing that could have happened to this brave nation. I hope people won't be sheep enough to abandon what was written before in 1776. For those who have even read more than 5 lines out of it .... which I highly doubt.
Right now, everybody is rejoycing because they have a somewhat "black" president ... who in the end will be no more than Bush. I am still wondering how a guy who makes millions a year can somehow relate to a supposed Joe the plumber or Tito the buillder. Smoke and mirror, it's all a fucking parody. But people wanted change, and that is what they will get. Once the smoke and party settle down, they will all face the hard truth. Ask France, ask England, etc.
wow i never knew all of this! but if freedom been taken away, i dont think US will stay the country thats leading the world, and what you say Belgar might happen, but i guess we have to wait and see
Goodbye Republicans 
These Alaska Republican crooks have gone down or investigated in the F.B.I. Alaska corruption probe.
Alaska's own "Corrupt Bastards Club"
Sen. John Cowdery (R- Anchorage), Senate Rules Committee Chair: Indicted Yes
Rep. Pete Kott (R- Eagle River), former speaker of the House: Indicted and Convicted
Jim Clark (R-Anchorage), former Chief of Staff to the Governor of Alaska: Indicted and Convicted
Rep. Vic Kohring (R- Wasilla), House Oil and Gas Committee Chair: Indicted and Convicted
Rep. Tom Anderson (R-Anchorage), House Labor and Commerce Chair: Indicted and Convicted
Rep. Bruce Weyhrauch, R-Eagle River: Indicted Yes
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Anchorage) Alaska State Senator: Indicted and Convicted
Former Gov. Frank Murkowski (R)
Rep. Norman Rokeberg (R-Anchorage), House Rules Committee Chair
Rep. Kevin Meyer (R-Anchorage), House Finance Committee Co-Chair
Rep. Mike Chenault (R- Nikiski), House Finance Committee Co-Chair
Rep. Lesil McGuire (R-Anchorage), House Judiciary Committee Chair
Sen. Con Bunde (R-Anchorage), Senate Labor and Commerce Committee Chair
Rep. Mike Hawker (R-Anchorage)
Lobbyist Bill Bobrick (R): Indicted and Convicted
These Alaska Republican crooks have gone down or investigated in the F.B.I. Alaska corruption probe.
Alaska's own "Corrupt Bastards Club"
Sen. John Cowdery (R- Anchorage), Senate Rules Committee Chair: Indicted Yes
Rep. Pete Kott (R- Eagle River), former speaker of the House: Indicted and Convicted
Jim Clark (R-Anchorage), former Chief of Staff to the Governor of Alaska: Indicted and Convicted
Rep. Vic Kohring (R- Wasilla), House Oil and Gas Committee Chair: Indicted and Convicted
Rep. Tom Anderson (R-Anchorage), House Labor and Commerce Chair: Indicted and Convicted
Rep. Bruce Weyhrauch, R-Eagle River: Indicted Yes
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Anchorage) Alaska State Senator: Indicted and Convicted
Former Gov. Frank Murkowski (R)
Rep. Norman Rokeberg (R-Anchorage), House Rules Committee Chair
Rep. Kevin Meyer (R-Anchorage), House Finance Committee Co-Chair
Rep. Mike Chenault (R- Nikiski), House Finance Committee Co-Chair
Rep. Lesil McGuire (R-Anchorage), House Judiciary Committee Chair
Sen. Con Bunde (R-Anchorage), Senate Labor and Commerce Committee Chair
Rep. Mike Hawker (R-Anchorage)
Lobbyist Bill Bobrick (R): Indicted and Convicted
belgar you didnt mention the solution thought? i know that your disapointed that Obama won, but you think the brave nation that you mention will rise if MaCain won?
Goodbye Republicans
These Alaska Republican crooks have gone down or investigated in the F.B.I. Alaska corruption probe.
Alaska's own "Corrupt Bastards Club"
Sen. John Cowdery (R- Anchorage), Senate Rules Committee Chair: Indicted Yes
Rep. Pete Kott (R- Eagle River), former speaker of the House: Indicted and Convicted
Jim Clark (R-Anchorage), former Chief of Staff to the Governor of Alaska: Indicted and Convicted
Rep. Vic Kohring (R- Wasilla), House Oil and Gas Committee Chair: Indicted and Convicted
Rep. Tom Anderson (R-Anchorage), House Labor and Commerce Chair: Indicted and Convicted
Rep. Bruce Weyhrauch, R-Eagle River: Indicted Yes
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Anchorage) Alaska State Senator: Indicted and Convicted
Former Gov. Frank Murkowski (R)
Rep. Norman Rokeberg (R-Anchorage), House Rules Committee Chair
Rep. Kevin Meyer (R-Anchorage), House Finance Committee Co-Chair
Rep. Mike Chenault (R- Nikiski), House Finance Committee Co-Chair
Rep. Lesil McGuire (R-Anchorage), House Judiciary Committee Chair
Sen. Con Bunde (R-Anchorage), Senate Labor and Commerce Committee Chair
Rep. Mike Hawker (R-Anchorage)
Lobbyist Bill Bobrick (R): Indicted and Convicted
Belgar
The Wallonian Redneck.
Not really. I believe McCain had a cleaner record on some civil values "such as gun control", whereas Obama for examplle favored "more lenient laws regarding legal d-rugs, both would have ended up being of the same.
My vote would not have been for any of them. I don't really believe in "wasting" votes as it is a given right in any democracy to use this right of vote. I do, however' believe that none of the candidates really represented the average American.
My believe is that with either McCain or Obama, you will ultimately get, more wars, more corrupt gov., more of the same in the way of trying to socialize SSN, health insurance, favor such and such big corporations, etc.
I strongly believe that they will never pull out of Iraq as Obama as promised. I look at it, as Machiavelli clearly put in works, or as Cesar explained in his conquest of Gaul. The US would be fooled not to keep "princes" in these lands, that is until the people start being unhappy, which is happening now. Today, they lavish you with so called, "iraq" is a happy place, what they don;t tell you is that the attacks in Afghanistan have gone up to where Iraq's attacks where before. I watched last week's British congressional testimony of British Generals all agreeing with this statement .. "it is going nowhere".
This follows US puppet Sarkozy who has nealry doubled France's presence in that country, along with being the biggest US ally and cry baby for more troops in that region.
That being said, I believe the US is still regarding Russia and many other countries as the little kids of the early 90's. Guess what, Russia now has the power to tell the US to f'off, as does China. The US being now, the world's biggest debtor to China.
I am not just trying to be a smartass, but I have studied enough of EU, and US history to notice the same pattern which has plagued empires centuries, and centuries before, and to see the same happening, over and over and over again. With always the same issue, people being sheeps and too passive to ask for change.
Just keep in mind, that the US in Iraq is not just there to bring people flowers and happiness. They would not be there had it not been for something better ... again, I draw conclusions to the Romans and Greeks. If that was the case.
The Romans were the same way, they were not in your region just for the beauty of the trees ... they stayed if you had power, gold, wealth, trade, etc.
Al that being said ... McCain and Obama will and never had the interest of the average Joe in mind ... they however needed the average Joe to vote for them. The end result will be the same shit. Bankers own all of the institutions ... kinda sad to think that the US Federal Reserve is not even owned by the US gov. , but instead is listed as a company in the yellow pages.
In any case, too late for me to ramble, the dice have been cast, as our roman ancesorts would have said " alea jacta est".
i just got your joe joke after watching tv. but yeah i do think every empire will fall
*A cold wind is blowing
Through the graves it is blowing
And it bares a poisoned tongue
And the foul breath of deceit
I am my fathers son
And his deeds
Cannot be undone... be undone
You trade in his blood
Writing your history
In the sacrifices of the dead
Where is the fighting man?
Am I he?
You would trade every truth
For hollow victories
Every empire will fall
Every monument crumble
Forgotten men who watch the centuries
Whose silent words
Rise up in betrayal
We will rise up in betrayal
Where is the fighting man?
Am I he?
You would trade every truth
For hollow victories
Every empire falls
And the earth to ashes turn
The lands of my birth
Shall be my tomb
The are the lands, the lands of my birth
Soon to be ruins, the ruins of my past
And when the sky should fall
The earth to ashes turn
Then you know they shall be my tomb
Where is the fighting man?
I am he
You would trade every truth
For hollow victories*
anyway the way i look at it having a black president is kind of a change if you see where im trying to get at!
*A cold wind is blowing
Through the graves it is blowing
And it bares a poisoned tongue
And the foul breath of deceit
I am my fathers son
And his deeds
Cannot be undone... be undone
You trade in his blood
Writing your history
In the sacrifices of the dead
Where is the fighting man?
Am I he?
You would trade every truth
For hollow victories
Every empire will fall
Every monument crumble
Forgotten men who watch the centuries
Whose silent words
Rise up in betrayal
We will rise up in betrayal
Where is the fighting man?
Am I he?
You would trade every truth
For hollow victories
Every empire falls
And the earth to ashes turn
The lands of my birth
Shall be my tomb
The are the lands, the lands of my birth
Soon to be ruins, the ruins of my past
And when the sky should fall
The earth to ashes turn
Then you know they shall be my tomb
Where is the fighting man?
I am he
You would trade every truth
For hollow victories*
anyway the way i look at it having a black president is kind of a change if you see where im trying to get at!
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