Black Metal... why?

[dcat]

I'm longing for the darkness, tis 16:15 here atm...

So I can play my new CD that arrived today, tis Ihsahn's "The Adversary."



What do you BM guys think of this release from Emperor's main man?

 

[A ska to S]

^It seems like he rushed it. It's more of "Ihsahn's Influences on CD" more than it is an actual album.

 

[JoeVice]

Negura Bunget - 'N Crugu Braduli & Om

JoeVice, perhaps in your culture a pointing-out of idiotic inconsistency is equivalent to a come-on, but you're sadly mistaken.

 

[JoeVice]

blah blah blah spent genre yawn nothing new in about 11 years. I don't understand how someone can like other forms of extreme metal but still not "get" black metal. It's not much of a stretch. Pissed off megalomaniacal teenagers with jacksons.

have you heard blut aus nord?

 

[Justin S.]

lmao, listen A. child's wife, you are really a pretentious arrogant little pussy aren't you? did you ever stop and think for a minute that, maybe, people may care about what sounds good and not about TEH trOO essEnce Of BlAcK MeTiL? good music is good music, shove that ''tr00'' thing up your ass
''Ignore the people who recommend later Enslaved, Ulver''
insufferable douche...

Quite a lot of baggage you have there. You misunderstand me if you think my recommendations had any concern for "troo-ness". They were to serve as an introduction to the formative foundations of "second wave" black metal, which is where I think the "essential" elements of the genre lie. I'm also disappointed that you ripped off the Don's insult.

If there is arrogance here, it is in your knee-jerk populist authoritarianism.

 

[A ska to S]

blut aus nord is not black metal

 

[Sadguru]

...and here we go again

 

[Sadguru]

I'm longing for the darkness, tis 16:15 here atm...

So I can play my new CD that arrived today, tis Ihsahn's "The Adversary."



What do you BM guys think of this release from Emperor's main man?

I think in a black metal perspective, it fails. On the other hand, in a progressive blackened metal one, it's absolutely delightful. Choose your perspective carefully.

 

[Sadguru]

For more accessible material that is still listenable, later Emperor is a decent choice (just stay away from IX Equilibrium).

Justin, how can you tell from what's "listenable" from what's not?

 

[JoeVice]

blut aus nord is not black metal

so you have heard them...well, given my reprotoire of genre classifications, i stuck them in black metal.

the work which transforms god is an amazing album.

 

[Justin S.]

Sadguru,

What I meant by that was what I think is worth listening to, that which can be listened to (not merely heard).

 

[Kenneth R.]

enter Justin S for the would-be philosopher's opinion on music.

 

[Kir-ir-Bannog]

I remember listening to a lot of bathory, sodom and celtic frost when i was a teenager and liking it a lot. BUT, i dont remember anyone EVER calling them black metal at the time (just heavy metal) , so i find it funny / interesting when they are banded as BM these days.

I will concede that i really dont mind emperor but that is about as far as it goes for me *shrugs*

 

[Sadguru]

Sadguru,

What I meant by that was what I think is worth listening to, that which can be listened to (not merely heard).

But what if someone judge something as "worth listening" and you do not. Who's right? Who's wrong?

 

[Justin S.]

enter Justin S for the would-be philosopher's opinion on music.

I am very much opposed to philosophy and philosophers.

 

[Kir-ir-Bannog]

I am very much opposed to philosophy and philosophers.

so that is your philosophy (is it not)?

 

[RedinTheSky]

There have been some excellent suggestions in the thread so far, here are some more you may want to try :

Drudkh - Autumn Aurora
Blut Aus Nord - Ultima Thulee
Diabolical Masqurade - The Phantom Lodge
Naglfar - Sheol
And Oceans - The Dynamic Gallery of Thoughts
Taake - Over Bjoergvin Graater Himmeri



There's a bit in there for everyone

 

[Tubbs]

lmao, listen A. child's wife, you are really a pretentious arrogant little pussy aren't you? did you ever stop and think for a minute that, maybe, people may care about what sounds good and not about TEH trOO essEnce Of BlAcK MeTiL? good music is good music, shove that ''tr00'' thing up your ass
''Ignore the people who recommend later Enslaved, Ulver''
insufferable douche...

Actually, I think Justin here is pretty much right when it comes to the "tr00" essence of black metal, since it's basically black metal in it's purest form, before bands started adding progressive sections and started experimenting with avant-garde ideas.

 

[Justin S.]

But what if someone judge something as "worth listening" and you do not. Who's right? Who's wrong?

Ah, truth as correct representation. Good luck trying to find "the original" with which to compare! (I leave such games to the "philosophers").

What must be evaluated is the thoughtfulness (responsibility) of judgment, its circumspection. It most cases, especially ones of great divergence, the mindful is clear.

 

[Sadguru]

Ah, truth as correct representation. Good luck trying to find "the original" with which to compare! (I leave such games to the "philosophers").

What must be evaluated is the thoughtfulness (responsibility) of judgment, its circumspection. It most cases, especially ones of great conflict, the mindful is clear.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you think any kind of judgement whatsoever is wrong to begin with? Can you elaborate a bit?