Bogner Uberschall...what a bitch 666! (Clip added)

Lasse Lammert

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yeah man, it's such a tricky beast...
remember all my clips and how I liked the amp?
there was always one thing I really didn't like about the amp...kinda brittle and harsh high mids that coulsn't be dialed out.

I approached the amp similar to all the other amps...kinda set everything around noon and then dip the mids slightly....
THAT gave a dull sounding tone though, so I had to raise the treble a bit...which resulted in harsh and brittle high mids....
Also did the bass have to be below 10:00-11:00 or it'd get really boomy...tricky bitch that thing.

Know what the problem was?
Irgnore the fact that the middle pot is labeled "middle", just like the "presence" control on this amp is not a "presence", the "middle" is not a "middle" control either..it's a "treble" knob....ehile the knob labeled "treble" is really closer to a presence control...

set the "middle" slightly above 12:00 and you can use as much bass as you want without the amp getting boomy and as much treble as you want without it getting fizzy....
I was kinda shying away from setting the middle above 12:00, cause that's usually not what I am doing for metal....but you really have to work this amp differently....
In fact it sounds FANTASTIC with all the dials (presence, treb, mid, bass, gain) set to 6 (which is also what the manual recommends, d'oh).
Pretty evil, huh?

I've just been reamping some tracks through the Uber and the Recto....and while I always loved the Uber it never got much use, cause it always seemed a tiny bit too fizzy or too boomy....
now with the 66666 settings it just KILLED the recto...no fizz, no boomyness...nothing...
with the "mid" control at 6 I could even raise the bass knob to 3:00 without it getting boomy (mids below 12:00 and it'll get boomy with the bass past 10:00!!)
if you own an Uber...PLEASE keep the mids above 12:00....it might look weird, but it really is not a rypical "mid" knob.

set everything to 6 like the manual recommends and it'll crush almost any amp (not the Earforce of course ;) ).


sorry for the confused spelling etc...I had a bottle of red
 
And that was your 6,667th post, too bad it wasn't one post sooner :lol:

You know what's next though... CLIPS!
 
hHAAHAHA cool!


+1 for clips if you get the chance :)

oh and youre giving me gas.. though i promised myself i wouldnt buy another head for a while what do you know..
 
Still u dont use the earforce thaaat often .... :(. Clients dont like them? Or just doesnt fit them?
 
I never liked the way the EQ worked on the Rev Blue Uber I used to have. The Presence knob is more of a low-mid/high-mid sweep... They say it's a midrange presence control. The Treble knob was more like an actual presence control, like you said, and the mids knob is very interactive with the other controls. What it does changes particularly depending on where you have the Presence (mid sweep) set. Pretty counter-intuitive and lots of overly filtered, not very good sounding tones to be had with extreme settings...
 
That makes total sense to me now. I used to have some of the same issue. Thanks for posting. Sadly I don't have the uber anymore cuz I love the recent tones you've been getting.
 
I love my rev blue, I find the amp settings vary a lot depending on the DI's being used.
I find myself using pretty extreme settings sometimes to get the sound I want.
When using the Uberschall, I can't get the perfect tone in one single reamp take,
so I blend together two tones to get the final tone.
The two tones are :
1. : Low Gain : High Mids : Low Treble
2. : High Gain : Low Mids : High Treble
Tone number 1 is the loudest and is about 90% of the mix.

I usually find that the result of such a blend is better sounding than any single reamp take.
 
I was just messing around with this on my uber at rehearsal today. I had the mids around 10 o'clock and it was just super boomy. Once I turned the mids up past noon it was crushing!

I need to go try out the 666 setting, seems strange because I've had to use really extreme eq before to get good sounds out of it. But what you are describing makes perfect sense with the way all of the knobs react to each other.

Uber is definitely one of my favs, if only the clean channel wasn't such a travesty... I can live with it though lol