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Not complaining, but just curious as to why it's taking so long to book shows in some of the larger cities?
C II C USA TOUR 2008
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Claus / Intromental
20 years of uniting the powers of metal
It takes a long time ... that's the way it is. Booking a tour is not easy, you not only have to find the right venue, but also have to discuss available dates and often the fee is not what the venue are willing to pay. Since we're kind of fixed on our routing of this tour, we won't say "yes" to having another day at a certain venue, so instead we have to look for another venue in same city on the date we want.
I know how much Hoyt and Glenn are working on this tour, and it just takes a bit of time to get everything together. It's normal.
claus
Intromental
Tess
Member
Is Lupo's in Providence close to the Providence-Boston commuter rail station? I'd look into seeing shows there if it's pretty easy to get to without needing a car.
Rider of Theli
The Hellequin
Raleigh, NC! Raleigh, NC!
sorry Tess, but you'll have to decide between ATL or Jaxx. The dates we have to work with are limited and we're trying to hit the major markets this first time out.
So for everyone else, and for the second or third time, there will be nothing west of Houston TX and there will be no FLA dates. Yes, I know CIIC are from Fla, but the Euro bands are not. And the Euro bands will be flying into Atl, so it does not make sense in a lucrative (i.e. can't lose our asses first time out) sense to travel an 18-24 hour round trip to play a show or two in Fla. Time and money simply will NOT allow for it.
Everyone must remember that this is the first run for some Intromental bands in North America. Dates will be limited and will hit the major markets. This is due to time constraints and budgeting.
And another point to consider is that not everyone has heard of CIIC, Circus Maximus, or Manticora outside of these (and similar) communities. Most every promoter and venue I've been calling have been like '...who?'. So this tour has been a very hard sell, but seems to finally be coming together in a few more places.
Again, I hope to be able to announce a few more confirmed dates in MAJOR markets by the end of this week. So just try to be patient because I've had to learn patience myself when dealing with these places.
Trust me. It hasn't exactly been easy. :Smug:
Thanks for your support,
~Hoyt.
That would quite depend on where the commuter rail station is. I don't know the location of that, so i couldn't tell you. Lupo's is in the same general area of Providence as the mall and the Dunkin' Donuts Center, IF I'm correct. I've never actually driven there myself (always been the passenger) and haven't been there in quite awhile.
Kathy
member
shaq
Demon of the Fall
I was the passenger as well, but I do remember going to that mall to kill time during the day so it's gotta be in the same area.
Bear
Got Shred??
I might make the trip to see this show out to Texas not so much for CIIC but Circus Maximus 
unless they somehow make it out to Cali someday
Bear
unless they somehow make it out to Cali someday Bear
mgirishfan
Member
Jaxx again?
Hmmm....I wish we could get some of these shows up the street a bit (well OK, 50 miles) at the Ram's Head Live in downtown Baltimore. Easy in, easy out, lots of parking, a gorgeous rock venue that can pack in 1200!) with superb lights and sound.....and as of March or so - non smoking! Until then, though...off to Jaxx we must go!
Cheerios!
BlackRoseMetalHeart
Metal Mistress
Until Ram's Head stops catering to the college to mid-forties, jock-esque, classic rock/classic metal loving crowd, I don't see this happening. It is a rare occasion that you see anything remotely underground coming to play there and in comparison to the bands that they typically have playing there. I mean it's part of PowerPlant, so it's designed to draw that type of crowd. I would certainly consider C II C, and definitely Circus Maximus and Manticora underground metal bands, so the chance of them or anything like them ever playing at Ram's Head are slim to none. Like it or not, Jaxx is recognized by most metal fans and bands as the "premier metal venue" on the east coast, regardless of how shitty their set-up or sound might be on most occasions.Jaxx again?
Until then, though...off to Jaxx we must go!
Cheerios!
Tess
Member
My Dearest Hoytie Toytie.
I was 100% joking about a Raleigh show. I completely understand there is no way in heck the tour could or would come here. A lot of the MAJOR (I use this term loosely in our genre of music we so love) tours don't even come through here. I'm so sorry it has been so tough to book the tour and I can only imagine what people say when you tell them the band names.
Best of luck for the rest of the booking and I will see you in Houston, Atlanta AND Virginia. WHAT do you think about THAT?!
YAY!! You are so gracious. Get ready cause I'm COMING!You can always come and stay with us for the Atlanta show, Tess!!!!
eaeolian
Division Guitarist
I'm so glad they along with Circus Maximus and Manticora are playing Jaxx in March '08. A very nice selection of bands. Sort of like a 'mini' ProgPower
Our bassist is calling it "ProgPower Mobile"
If you're coming, drop me a line, since, as always, we have tickets to shill. I actually *have* them, too!
eaeolian
Division Guitarist
Sonar would be much more likely as a venue (anyone who thinks this tour is filling a 1200 seater is deluding themselves), but I just don't see that happening.
Besides, I keep telling people that Jaxx does not have a shitty sound system. Kamelot used the 100% of house system and sounded awesome, for example.
eaeolian
Division Guitarist
Were you right up front? You may have been inside the throw of the FOH speakers, which has reportedly been fixed.
Oh, and not hearing our singer is an improvement in some people's eyes.
Oh, and not hearing our singer is an improvement in some people's eyes.
BlackRoseMetalHeart
Metal Mistress
I have been to very few shows at Sonar, one being Rhapsody where it was so unbearably hot (a mass of people, no AC, no small or industrial fans, no ventilation except for a few open doors) that we didn't even stay inside to see/hear Manowar. The little bit we heard of them was when we were standing out back by the buses talking to Fabio. The ceiling is also very low. The venue doesn't really strike me as a good live music venue, it was meant more as a dance hall and hosts such events in the other rooms of the venue. If I had my druthers I'd rather drive an hour south to Jaxx than 15 minutes into Baltimore to watch a show at Sonar.
I get mixed messages from everyone, but you play there more than most folks I know or have talked to, so you probably have more insight. I guess I shouldn't be too critical of Jaxx since I know that they've had some trouble securing a regular trained sound guy recently. Do you know if that has been taken care of yet? Either way, I usually feel like it's a coin toss at Jaxx regarding their sound though, since sometimes I go and the sound is great and sometimes it's just awful (more frequently for opening bands than for headliners, but sometimes the headliners sound off also). As someone who doesn't play music, I'll admit it is hard for me to pinpoint where the fault is - with the board or with the musicians.
eaeolian
Division Guitarist
I don't like the place much, personally, but it's the only other venue I can think of in Baltimore that has the requisite capacity without being too large.
Jaxx is not the easiest room in the world to mix, especially during the summer, as humidity is a really big problem in that building. (Especially when the AC breaks DURING the show, like Symphony X.)
Frequently the FOH people the bands bring in try and handle that by overpowering the room, which doesn't work out so well for those who don't enjoy being deaf. They also frequently won't listen to the house guys, which is a mistake. In the hands of a skilled engineer, the room is handleable. When I was there for Sonata, they had Bill Culver back for FOH, and he's awesome, when motivated. Sean also does good FOH there.
Frequently, the bands don't help, since many of them insist on being blasting loud on stage, which doesn't really help. They need a strong stage manager at the club that'll tell the bands when they're hurting themselves. Sadly, that's something they haven't had in years.
LarryD
Member
***You should know by now -- that we won't be anywhere near this thing in Rhode Island..... :Smug: NYC we go !!!!!!!!!!!
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