Can I get a Fuck yeah for the new Enslaved??

[Det Som Engang Var]

I can hold my own with black metal knowledge. I'm not going to name drop but I know plenty of kvlt underground bands.

It was a bad choice of words. Let me rephrase that. Most black metal is mindless tremelo picking, and that's a statement I stand by. Most black metal sounds the same, a statement I stand by. Most black metal barely counts as music, a statement I stand by. Most black metal is abrasive noise, a statement I stand by.

I still love old Borknagar, code, Malsain, Fortid, countless others.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

Your first statement:
"Mindless" indicates that they do this without thought, that it is not a deliberate choice in order to obtain a specific quality in their music. Which is false.

Your second statement:
This would indicate that you have heard "most" black metal bands. Which is false, I would wager. Or you really aren't listening close enough.

Your third statement:
This assumes that what constitutes "music" is objective. Which is false.

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

Of course it's all relative, Max. That goes without saying.

I know I don't know half the black metal bands you do, but please remember for a few years I did nothing but download and research underground black metal. I'm not a noob to the genre.

And yeah, the tremelo picking is usually mindless. Maybe not in early Emperor albums, but you get my drift. The genre is FILLED with clones making the same song over and over again, there is little originality left and that's why I stopped keeping up with it.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

No less than in any other genre. Every genre is made up of a plethora of clones, a portion of good bands, and a portion of suck. And regardless of the originality, its not mindless. Like I said, it is a deliberate choice to obtain a certain quality of sound (the atmosphere, the drone, the abrasive quality which can frequently be a positive element in a metal band).

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

That said, I'm not a huge fan of pre-Below the Lights Enslaved. I'd rather they continue in this direction then regress to that.

 

[theoden236]

+1

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

Old Enslaved is amazing. Not just good, amazing.
The past couple records have been shit.

 

[Dreadful]

Funeral's-From These Wounds album

GREAT album. The best melodic death doom I've heard in like 3 years

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

Best doom album period, fuck Candlemass.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

oh jeez

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

no, but you can get a fuck yea for the new Therion.

 

[neal]

Best doom album period, fuck Candlemass.

 

[neal]

buuut i did check out that funeral album and it just might be the best doom-metal ive heard. actual awesome melancholic melodies and epic heavy riffing instead of just slow boring metal like a lot of that doom/death/metal stuff. at least one good thing came out of that retarded bm bashing.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

Best doom-anything:

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

Followed closely by:

and

 

[neal]

Best doom-anything:

i dunno about these vocals...

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

Trust me. They sound whiny at first. But then you keep listening and you realize its the most depressing music ever made.

 

[Dreadful]

Electric Wizard...good...definitely has a real sick thick guitar sound but I'm not as ecstatic on them as other people are...maybe later on I'll see the light. Disembowlment. Shit yeah...like I used to say 1993 was a great innovative year for death metal and that album is one reason why.


Warning - Watching From A Distance...I'll check it out.

 

[Dreadful]

Oh yeah if you like From These Wounds, esp. the riffing, check their previous abum "In Fields of Pestilent Grief"

 

[[KOTNO]Narrot]

new enslaved is good. rofl @ discussing about music ...