Christian Metal

Krigloch the Furry-ass said:
this thread is still going. someone please stop
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If christians want to discuss music they have the right as anyone else. It's obvious these are not the 'everything is bad 'christians so what's the problem.
 
One of my christian aunts... she's one of those insane christians. My uncle and her use to be really cool until around 5 years ago when they become born agains.

both are fucking crazy. i'm not kidding
 
The Greys said:
One of my christian aunts... she's one of those insane christians. My uncle and her use to be really cool until around 5 years ago when they become born agains.

both are fucking crazy. i'm not kidding
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good story
 
The Greys said:
One of my christian aunts... she's one of those insane christians. My uncle and her use to be really cool until around 5 years ago when they become born agains.

both are fucking crazy. i'm not kidding
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I mean yeah it does make some people crazy when they are born again but I mean I'm not much different. One thing that bothers me is that people make you think you should be a whole lot different. I went throug a stage where I only listened to Christian music and thought it was wrong if I didn't but that is bull and I know that now. But anyways......
 
One of my best mates converted back in '95. He went as far as to burn his Slayer collection, including the sweeeeeeeeeeeeet Vinyll bootlegs he had.

He kept into metal though, and he still comes to see Motorhead and Anthrax with me whenever either come to town. We just agree never to talk about religion, as it's about the only thing we would argue about.

Fucking Baptists.
 
:lol: When I was a Christian some of the members of my church kept trying to get me to stop listening to metal, and I just refused. They had gotten one of my friends to do it too, she's not too much into heavy music but she loves A Perfect Circle and she broke her Mer de Noms CD. Her boyfriend, a good buddy of mine, bought her a new one.
 
Most contemporary Christian music annoys me with prostelytizing lyrics. I realize that the satanist themes in metal are just as silly, but I can laugh at cartoon Satanism. It's rarely meant as a serious act of devotion or worship anyway.

Christian lyrics, by contrast, reinforce the values of the dominant culture which has only a passing separation between church and state. I'll confess to being a bit biased as well. I'm an agnostic who grew up in a very religious family. I recognize and even employ the use of religious metaphors in good poetry, but I get really fucking tired of hearing bible verses quoted, while hearing about how much Jesus loves me.

Jesus loves the little children, and Father O'Riley wants to hear their "oral confession." :hypno:


PS: but you're right. Trouble and Tourniquet have awesome musicianship and innovative compositions.
 
Boru said:
I mean yeah it does make some people crazy when they are born again but I mean I'm not much different. One thing that bothers me is that people make you think you should be a whole lot different. I went throug a stage where I only listened to Christian music and thought it was wrong if I didn't but that is bull and I know that now.
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Yes. Many people who "find god" get addicted to the emotional rush of belonging to a collective and feeling their life has a purpose. When that high wears off, they will do anything to return to it, like a crack addict seeking another fix. One of the more popular methods is to purge their lives of all "unclean" influences. It's a particularly virulent strain of monotheist exclusivity, similar to Yahweh's declaration that the Jews were his "chosen people." Sacramental wine and the 10 Commandments weren't the only baggage Christians inherited. :ill:


Say, remember Fishbone? They were a brilliant funk metal and ska punk band in the late '80s and early '90s. Their album The Reality of My Surroundings is one of my favorite recordings ever. The beginning of the end for that band, was when Kendall Jones "found God," and declared Fishbone's music to be "evil and Satanic."

AS THE TENSIONS CONTINUED MOUNTING, KENDALL JONES had begun to distance himself from the band. He had gotten in touch with his hitherto estranged father. ("As long as I knew Kendall, he hated his father," says Norwood.) There had been rumors that Kendall's dad was part of a religious cult, but no one knew for sure. Then, after a rejected proposal to his girlfriend left Kendall sad and vulnerable, his mental health and his dad's influence became major issues. "His mother had died while we were making Truth and Soul, and he never grieved," says Norwood, "never cried, never came to grips with all that stuff. His family was just upside-down about it, and he felt he had to be the strong one. Then he stopped drinking all of a sudden. He quit cold turkey and wanted to marry his girlfriend." "Actually, Kendall's girlfriend played a dirty trick on him," Walt clarifies. "He wanted to marry her, and she said, 'The only way I'm gonna marry you is if you stop drinking,' and so he stayed off the bottle for a few months and got clean and sober. Then he tries to pop the question over dinner, and she says, 'All right. Let's drink to that.' This motherfucker takes a sip of wine, and she says, 'Ain't no way I can marry you.' This motherfucker bought a suit, a ring and all that shit. He was, like, serious. Next thing you know, he's tearing his house up, doing crazy shit. He couldn't sleep. And then all that shit just turned into some kind of insanity."

Kendall's father took notice of the situation, and manipulated it. "He told him if he really wanted to get close to God, he had to do a 24-hour prayer and a 24-hour fast for seven days," says Norwood. "Don't eat anything, and don't sleep." ã

"We were making the record, and Kendall was staying up till all hours," adds Walt. "He just went haywire by the end of the mix."

"Later, when we were in court," says Norwood, "they looked at his phone bills and found out that on the first day of the fast, Kendall had been on the phone with his dad for 10 hours. And every day after that it was, like, nine or 12 or 15 hours. He'd be talkin' to his father from the studio and reading his Bible in the corner. By the fifth day, shit just got more and more bizarre. Him and his brother threw out all his records -- even Marvin Gaye's Greatest Hits. He thought it was all satanic. He thought I was being demonically influenced to write the music and that Angelo was demonically influenced to write the lyrics. Then he became convinced that everything he'd ever done was demonically influenced. It was the scariest thing I had ever been through -- and that's when he flew up to be with his father."

"It was so sudden," recalls Walt. "That's why Norwood wanted to take Kendall's ass to the hospital." Norwood adds, "After he left, we talked to the people at Cedars-Sinai and the Psychiatric Evaluation Team at L.A. County, trying to figure out what happened, what we can do. From the things we said, they assessed that Kendall had had a severe nervous breakdown and suggested we do an adult intervention.

"As a result of us going there to try and help him," says Norwood, "the district attorney of Marin County put me through a six-week jury trial. Kendall was there every day to help the D.A. in his case against me. We never denied anything we did. We just said the reason why. We had to tell everything in court, and it hurt him like hell, but we were facing nine to 11 years in the fuckin' federal penitentiary, so we laid everything out. In the end, they gave us a full acquittal. During the trial, Kendall displayed some odd behavior, so everyone was, like, 'Okay, maybe there is something to what they're saying.'"

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"Kendall leaving is part of why I left, because I felt this band wouldn't be the same. And they've gone on, and that's cool. But I love those guys. It's cool. I hope their shit blows up, always have. The type of friendship we had goes beyond even a little quibble, spat, spout or bullshit. It's just your dreams just don't represent my dreams anymore. When you have intense personalities in a band, and you've known each other since you were that young, a lot of times people always like to see you in a particular light. It's kinda like 'That is your space,' but you may not want to be in that space anymore. You may have grown out of that space.

"Kendall," says Chris, who's stayed in touch, "acknowledges what happened. The meltdown. He was going through a lot of shit, and there's a lot of shit that we put each other through emotionally as a band. He was a very emotional guy. Maybe if we would have handled it differently at the time and at least been communicating, we could have helped each other out better. But I think he's picked up the pieces. He learned a lot of important things by having his breakdown and all that shit. He's definitely a changed person. That I can attest to."
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He also looks very metal. The beard, the long hair, the gaping wound in the side. Kvlt az fvck.

Plus, he's like a living corpse, and had to die by torture for a bunch of complaining jews.

That makes him simultaniously necr0 and gr1m.
 
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