Thoth-Amon
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It could be that too, but i will just take it as an indefinite failure on their part to come up with some valid reason why Christian Metal sucks lol.
Matt
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I'm not going to say that all Christian metal sucks, but I can say that I've despised every one I've come across
no country for old wainds
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a piece of music is a series of signifiers which taken together form a structure of meaning, this occurs because common associations between signifier and signified are determined over time and these associations cannot be *changed* so much as built upon - the determining characteristics of the genre metal have evolved to symbolise/convey/conjure a whole lot of ideas/attitudes that christianity explicitly rejects and vice-versa, ERGO, it is questionable whether christian themes can correlate with already established definitions of what metal is or can be.
or to put it another way, show me a christian who writes good metal and i'll show you a heterosexual man firing his load into his boyfriend's ass
or to put it another way, show me a christian who writes good metal and i'll show you a heterosexual man firing his load into his boyfriend's ass
V.V.V.V.V.
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Shredzilla
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Mathiäs;7382412 said:
Check out Crimson Moonlight, Antestor, Aletheian, Pantokrator, and then come back, bud.
False Joe
Who cares.
I don't really like the term Christian Metal. The term is a way for Christians to seperate themselves from "the worldly" heavy metal music. I believe it can hurt the genre in some ways. People will listen to "christian metal" even if it sucks just because of the message. That said, Extol is the best of the "Christian Metal" genre. I really like what I have heard of Becoming the Archetype. I also find that Metalcore seems to be the flag that is flown for the Christian Metalheads.
False Joe
Who cares.
Vacant_Planets
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Zhou Tai 04
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Fearscape, Sympathy, and Martyrs Shrine are really good.
Have you ever actually read the bible?
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Have you ever actually read the bible?
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ShredHeadJHJ
oh noes itz a opinionn
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you really believe that??? The thing is that Christian Metal can have the same exact style of instrumentation as the really good "extreme" metal bands, it just has different lyrical themes. Who here actually understands what most metal bands are saying anyways??? Do lyrics really matter thaaaaaaaaat much in metal at this point?
I'm into music more for the melody. If I can sing along to something that's awesome, but in extreme metal lyrical themes are nearly pointless.A friend of mine played in a Chrstian Death Metal band called "Monotheist". He never wrote or recorded any music with them, but they were pretty fucking good & you couldn't understand what the singer was saying so it doesn't matter. It's too heavy for regular Chritians anyways. The same applies to Alethian & Extol.
I personally don't listen to any Christian bands, as I typically avoid them. This has nothing to do with the music, as I'm sure there's plenty of talented Christan bands but I just don't agree with the pro-christian message etc. To me, this isn't any different from an average person being turned off by bands with a Satanic image and lyrical themes, or NSBM etc.
I do think it's stupid to argue that "Christian metal sucks" or that there isn't such thing as Christian black metal (for example). It's not a genre of it's own, but a tag to distinguish between them and the typical black metal band, and it's convenient for people who exclusively follow Christian-themed metal, obviously...
I agree with ShredHeadJHJ also. Christian lyrics can co-exist with any genre/style of metal, as can any lyrical theme. I really hate, especially in black metal, when people try to pass the genre off as some sort of pure art form and above any other genre, where seemingly every single aspect of the music is full of meaning and the idealogy/meaning is at the forefront of the music. Sure music is art, expression etc but at the end of the day it's just music.
I do think it's stupid to argue that "Christian metal sucks" or that there isn't such thing as Christian black metal (for example). It's not a genre of it's own, but a tag to distinguish between them and the typical black metal band, and it's convenient for people who exclusively follow Christian-themed metal, obviously...
I agree with ShredHeadJHJ also. Christian lyrics can co-exist with any genre/style of metal, as can any lyrical theme. I really hate, especially in black metal, when people try to pass the genre off as some sort of pure art form and above any other genre, where seemingly every single aspect of the music is full of meaning and the idealogy/meaning is at the forefront of the music. Sure music is art, expression etc but at the end of the day it's just music.
Zhou Tai 04
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I can understand most of what I've heard (most brutal death and some black metal is hard, though). And yes, lyrics do matter [to an extent], depending on what the band is trying to accomplish.
Monotheist is great as well, though they aren't really death metal.
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