Clean Vocals: automatically equal cheesy song?

[IWP]

Clean vocals do NOT equal cheese. To me cheese, equals silly lrics and/or effects. For example, Helloween's Rise and Fall is a cheesy song, because it has silly effects, and the whole atmosphere of the song as a whole is just so silly, including the chorus.

 

[Faint]

Comes down to who you are, alot of people find Silencer cheesy due to the vocals, though personally I think the screams on 'Death - Pierce Me' are damn good. Lots of other factors can make songs cheesy as well, e.g. keyboards.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

It stops being cheesy and starts being awesome when you read the lyrics and take the whole atmosphere into account.

 

[CF87]

I think clean vocals are generally just cheesy when it comes to power metal and that's it.

 

[ArneZ]

dosnt matter if its clean,scream,raw,growl, it can all be cheesy at some point.

 

[The Ozzman]

If people think clean vox make a song cheesy by themselves, they are stupid.

 

[mdmatt4ever]

I can't even describe how stupid someone would be to think just because it has clean vocals it means it's cheesy.

 

[mdmatt4ever]

The problem is that clean vocals are always sung in the style of the times and so they will always age badly.
In metal this was largely:
70's=whining or nasally high pitched
80's=over the top or falsetto
90's=sensitive new age guy or forced grungey, throaty shit
The only thing I don't find cheesy is modern stuff, this applied 10 years ago as it does now. As long as the aging fashions of 10 years ago don't bother you, it's not a problem.

thats not true, not even close

 

[Satanstoenail]

Anything less than pure toneless distortion turned up to eleven is cheesy. And also gay.

 

[Kreator/Destroyer]

so I was about to post...but I realize I'm still not smart enough for this forum...

 

[mutantllama]

What's so funny?

 

[mdmatt4ever]

What's so funny?

you pnwed him

 

[The Butt]

Depends on the singer.

There are some singers that sound like they got punched in the nutsack one too many times (ZP Theart is the first to come to mind), and those are usually the ones that end up making a song cheesy.

But there are also a ton of others that stomp ass, such as Matt Barlow, early Ozzy (ie; first three Sab albums), Johan Langqvist, etc.

 

[Einherjar86]

Depends on the singer.

There are some singers that sound like they got punched in the nutsack one too many times (ZP Theart is the first to come to mind), and those are usually the ones that end up making a song cheesy.

But there are also a ton of others that stomp ass, such as Matt Barlow, early Ozzy (ie; first three Sab albums), Johan Langqvist, etc.

And Ilja Jalkanen from Kiuas,

 

[AlexiSinergy]

Dimmu Borgir can pull it off amazingly!

 

[Zephyrus]

Dimmu Borgir can pull it off amazingly!

By hiring the best clean vocalist in black metal, of course. But Vortex's best vocal work is not with this band.

 

[mutantllama]

you pnwed him

I see. That just shows how 1337 I am. I pwn people without even knowing!

 

[General Zaroff]

No

Clean vocals can be cheesey but when we're dealing with good bands like Iron Maiden, it's not cheesey.

 

[mdmatt4ever]

No

Clean vocals can be cheesey but when we're dealing with good bands like Iron Maiden, it's not cheesey.

i like maiden but IMO dickinson's vocals are the pure definition of cliche clean vocals

 

[Einherjar86]

^True; Kamelot totally refined what Maiden was doing. They made that style of vocalism not cheesy (in my opinion; cause Khan is fuckin' awesome).