Controversial opinions on metal

[Vossyrus]

I've only listened to their first two albums. Would you say Durch Den Traum is a good starting point for their later material?

Regarding their recent material, yes, Durch Den Traum is fantastic and a good starting point. But understand it's not the aggressive melodic black metal that you'd find on their early albums, it's hardly even metal. The music is peaceful, dark and atmospheric, and very mood-oriented. More acoustic guitar and whispered vocals. Hexenwind is similar because they were written and recorded at the same time, but I don't think it's as good. And In Luft geritzt is an acoustic album, not one that I cared too much for.

Also, you might want to check out their third album, if you've only heard the first two.

 

[Draehl]

Dornenreich is awesome. Durch Den Traum is pretty sweet too.

That name has been popping up a lot lately. Guess it should be checked out.

 

[Eligos]

They toured with Agalloch.

 

[ASD]

"Over And Over" is by far the better bluesy album closer for Dio-era Sabbath. Blows away "Lonely Is The Word."

In fact the solo in it is one of Iommi's best and subsequently one of the greatest of all time. Holy shit.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Black Sabbath with Ozzy >>>>>>>> Black Sabbath with Dio

 

[mutantllama]

More like Ozzy Sabbath is only a little better then Dio Sabbath.

 

[Bitencourt29]

seriously though... Dio Sabbath > Ozzy Sabbath

 

[Kara-Shehr]

Black Sabbath with Ozzy >>>>>>>> Black Sabbath with Dio

The only time I've liked Black Sabbath was when Ozzy was in the band.

 

[ASD]

Ozzy Sabbath is musically better than Dio Sabbath (even though Heaven And Hell might be my favorite Sabbath record), but I'm sure if Dio sang on the Ozzy-era albums, they'd be even better.

 

[Dak]

Tony Martin is a meeeeellion times better than all the other Sabbath vocalists.

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

no

 

[challenge_everything]

I can only conclude that anyone who thinks Ozzy era albums would have been better with Dio or Martin fails at a fundamental understanding of metal.

 

[Balmung]

Ozzy is by no means a great singer, but his voice fits perfectly in the music of Black Sabbath in that era. And also, I think ozzy era Sabbath is better than Dio era, but just because I prefer doomy heavy metal to traditional heavy metal.

 

[mutantllama]

Dio is by far the best Sabbath singer, Ozzy's stuff is the best though, and any other vocalist that worked with Sabbath wouldn't fit the role of the drugged out sound Ozzy had.


All can sound dark as hell though, but they do it in different fashions.

I think it's silly to compare them just because they were in the same band.

The best thing Dio has done though has been Rainbow's Rising.

 

[mutantllama]

Ozzy is by no means a great singer, but his voice fits perfectly in the music of Black Sabbath in that era. And also, I think ozzy era Sabbath is better than Dio era, but just because I prefer doomy heavy metal to traditional heavy metal.

Dio era Sabbath is pretty doomy.

 

[The Butt]

"Over And Over" is by far the better bluesy album closer for Dio-era Sabbath. Blows away "Lonely Is The Word."

No.

seriously though... Dio Sabbath > Ozzy Sabbath

I can only conclude that anyone who thinks Ozzy era albums would have been better with Dio or Martin fails at a fundamental understanding of metal.

Finally, someone with some fucking sense.

Have any of you even heard Live Evil? Dio fucking destroys the Ozzy-era songs. And not in the good way, in the "Oh my fucking god this is so abysmally bad" way.

 

[Balmung]

Dio era Sabbath is pretty doomy.

Yeah well, of course I didn't mean traditional heavy metal in the shitty vein of Manowar and the likes, just that ozzy era is much more doomy that dio era.


And agreed, Dio singing ozzy-era songs in Live Evil is not any good.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Ozzy was IMO a better fit for the band, and a better vocalist, and their first couple albums with him are definitely their best ..... personally, i couldn't stand Dio's vocals, he's the main reason that i dont(cant) listen to any of their stuff after Never Say Die.

 

[Kara-Shehr]

Forbidden is awesome.

 

[The Butt]

Cross Purposes is the only Martin-era album worth a damn, IMO.