Controversial opinions on metal

[The Butt]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/facetious, broheim

Might wanna read that. But anybody who says they weren't BM is still a retard.

 

[PhlegethonVeins]

Ditto sir =)

 

[The Butt]

ok

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Anyone that says Armageddon, Reaper, Sacrifice, etc are any more black metal than the thrashier Venom songs or Destruction's debut EP is deaf.

 

[ASD]

I've always felt that bands like Varathron aren't (Hellenic) black metal, but more like death/doom.

 

[Krow]

No one said that?

Edit: @ HBB

 

[Master_Yoda77]

Do you know what Hellenic means?

 

[ASD]

Yea, it means Greek...

I was just saying that I find that whole Hellenic style more like death/doom that black metal. It's not that important, its still good music. Granted I haven't listened to much "Hellenic black metal" beyond Varathron, so they could just be an exception.

EDIT:
stuff like this doesn't sound very black metal to me

 

[HamburgerBoy]

No one said that?

Edit: @ HBB

In previous posts you've stated that you dislike the term "first wave black metal" and that "Bathory was black metal from the beginning."

 

[Addo_Of_Nex]

stuff like this doesn't sound very black metal to me

Why? I often see a lot of people say things like this about the early Greek and Czech black metal scenes, but a lot of the time it stems from those in question falsely believing the Norwegian sound to be the only canonical template for second wave black metal. The problem is that this view completely overlooks essential regional and temporal factors that are crucial in understanding the lineage of the melting pot of styles we now lump under the banner of "black metal".

 

[Sven Pakkanen]

EDIT:
stuff like this doesn't sound very black metal to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v8QOhZb1wg

I'm with ASD on this one, if anything it's Black n' Roll, but even Black n' Roll sounds more black metal. It's just not. . . black. Not grim, or bleak, or anything like that.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I'm with ASD on this one, if anything it's Black n' Roll...

Examples of "black n' roll", please.

 

[Sven Pakkanen]

Old Man's Child in cases, or Dissection's Reinkaos

 

[KafkaX]

Examples of "black n' roll", please.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

That blackened surf rock never gets old. <3

Old Man's Child in cases, or Dissection's Reinkaos

And those honestly sound like that Varathron song to you? No wait, more black metal to you?

 

[PhlegethonVeins]

Proto Black metal, 1st wave of black metal, 2nd wave of black metal, 3rd way of black metal, black 'n roll ... this is just laughable.

 

[no country for old wainds]

you forgot nature metal, ghoulwave and stalinist bm

 

[PhlegethonVeins]

^_^

 

[sevag00]

Proto Black metal, 1st wave of black metal, 2nd wave of black metal, 3rd way of black metal, black 'n roll ... this is just laughable.

Why aren't you laughing then?

 

[PhlegethonVeins]

Voicebox issue.