Controversial opinions on metal

[HamburgerBoy]

explicitly
ex·plic·it   [ik-splis-it]
adjective
1. fully and clearly expressed or demonstrated; leaving nothing merely implied; unequivocal: explicit instructions; an explicit act of violence; explicit language.
2. clearly developed or formulated: explicit knowledge; explicit belief.
3. definite and unreserved in expression; outspoken: He was quite explicit as to what he expected us to do for him.
4. described or shown in realistic detail: explicit sexual scenes.
5. having sexual acts or nudity clearly depicted: explicit movies; explicit books.

In context, please. What does it mean to be a doom metal band explicitly vs a doom metal band implicitly?

By definitions #1 and #2, I would interpret his post as meaning "They were never explicitly a "doom metal" band because they lack the tangible musical qualities that make a band doom metal." If that's what he meant, then I don't see the problem because I basically already said that in my post.

By definition #3, I would interpret his post as meaning "They were never explicitly a "doom metal" band because they never defined themselves as doom metal." If that's what he meant, then I don't see how that is relevant when I'm fairly certain that others from that time did not define themselves as doom metal either.

 

[LuminousAether]

Did bands even call themselves doom metal back then? When did the term "doom metal" even get coined?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Did bands even call themselves doom metal back then? When did the term "doom metal" even get coined?

I did some quick Googling and all I could find was some metal wiki citing Epicus Doomicus Metallicus as coining it. Wouldn't be surprised if that's wrong and if it was being thrown around at the same time as any other metal sub-genre, but I don't know where to find any relevant interviews on the matter. SendBackMyStamps doesn't have much earlier than 1985 and they cover mostly thrash, death, and black metal, and the zine scans on Corroseum's page all seem to be dead links, but I know there's a lot of stuff floating around on assorted blogs.

 

[Vamos]

Did bands even call themselves doom metal back then? When did the term "doom metal" even get coined?

I think it was after Candlemass' Epicus Doomicus Metallicus.

 

[Mort Divine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb8lTVxq6uo

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Post-Forest of Equilibrium Cathedral is some of the most ridiculous and stupid shit in existence. Basically nothing more than grooveless and overglorified "Southern metal"/stoner rock. Every American band that changed their sound likewise did it better.

Glad to see some appreciation for hot black chicks tho.

 

[Mort Divine]

That is such a fucking absurd and dumb opinion.

 

[EffigyForgotten]

I guess i'm the only one who doesn't like doom metal that much...

 

[LuminousAether]

I like doom, but apparently not the same type as most here. I like doom to have deep guttural growled vocals.

 

[Mort Divine]

Most of that 'doom' isn't doom.

 

[EffigyForgotten]

I like doom, but apparently not the same type as most here. I like doom to have deep guttural growled vocals.

Like Asphyx? Like you i'm not a fan of the vocals in most doom bands, they don't fit the music at all, but death/doom is awesome when done right but is usually pretty boring.

 

[sevag00]

I mostly listen to death/doom. I can't stand trad doom though.

 

[mutantllama]

Man 80 percent of what I listen to is doom.

 

[tagradh]

If your favourite subgenre of metal isn't metal then you're doing it wrong.


You're more than likely moving in that direction, or you've fallen into the SO METAAAAAAAAL trap. Woe is you.

 

[Dak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Qdj7pt7Iw

Mort Wins.

 

[EffigyForgotten]

If your favourite subgenre of metal isn't metal then you're doing it wrong.


You're more than likely moving in that direction, or you've fallen into the SO METAAAAAAAAL trap. Woe is you.

What are you smoking? Seriously though, maybe I should stop smoking it just in case.

 

[EffigyForgotten]

Here's a controversial opinion (at least for this forum), I like Periphery. I listened to their first album when it came out and didn't appreciate it but now that i'm much more open to music I think its really fucking awesome.

 

[Bled & Dead]

Here's a controversial opinion (at least for this forum), I like Periphery. I listened to their first album when it came out and didn't appreciate it but now that i'm much more open to music I think its really fucking awesome.

I dig them too.

 

[King Richard]

That Cathedral songs hurt my ears.

 

[J.]

i love trad doom and cathedral just isnt good. at all.