Just because I enjoy the first two Obituary albums (and some of the new one, whatever the fuck it's called) doesn't mean they're not an overall mediocre band in general. Pretty boring riffs and endless bleeeeargh vocals. Whatever. I listen to enjoy a lot of "shitty music."
It was important to me I set that straight, though.
Speaking of shitty music, I like Disturbed. And I've yet to hear anything compelling in the vein of why Morbid Angel are in any way better. I'm not asking for evidence. There is no "evidence," simply well-enough argued opinion to make someone go "Heh. Makes sense. Well, that's cool." So saying that one being "inferior" or whatnot is possible, and that a reversal of that is illogical, is humorous. Because, the criteria for interbreeding of opinion and fact was never established (it never is) and the opinion that an influential DM band is inherently "superior" (hahahaha) to a mainstream alt metal band approaches this curve of confusion whereby readily established opinion is interpreted as fact. Thus, the controversy.
And they are unrelated, so it wouldn;t be a riff-by-riff argument. I just hear a well-written, competently performing popular band in one ear and an overrated, hackneyed bunch of genre trope apers in the other. Well, that was harsh. In fact, to dispel trollish hot-button pushing, I'll just say that MA's riffs do nothing for me, their song structures don't interest me, the drums monotonously overpower the music and lack variety, the solos are endless, pointless, and far too frequent, and both vocalists are poor. Add in evil imagery I could care less about, and then a dash of diminishing returns, and voila! I. No. Like.
I guess speaking in abstractions, Disturbed write catchy simple riffs with occasionally memorable and fluid melodies, insert good hooks, always suprise me instrumentally, and showcase excellent singing and musicianship. They've progresed from album to album, and diversified in sound and depth, taken chances, and never apologized for any of it. On top of that, they never aped their predecessors to the same degree and have few enough followers to be a distinctive musical entity. So, I'll defend them to the ends of the Earth. Artistically significant? Meh. Probably not. One of my favorites? Not really. But I like them. I guess it's my value system that's controversial here (or "shit," whatever, thanks).
Anyway, that discussion's closed from my end. I've provided enough.
As far as Kreator goes, they're awesome. However, last few albums, I've heard the Gothenburg production and the influence. Doesn't bother me, although I wish they'd leave that stuff to the Duskfall or Kalmah and keep on cranking out the Krautthrash, but whatever. Their old production, raw and brutal. New production, clean.
Reinkaos was okay. Not BM, more like melodic death, but enjoyable. Don't know why people got so ornery over the transformation. It's not like Dissection was ever that kVlt to begin with.
god blue-jay you are a never ending source or amusement
