Controversial opinions on metal

[seedofvengeance]

... Which aren't the only bands to ever exist in hard rock... It has evolved through the years.

 

[Alter]

Hard rock? What? I'm certainly not hearing Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, or Aerosmith in there.

Yeah, I do not hear much Manowar in a lot of current metal bands today. Those bands are not metal, right? You just happen to be the most closed-minded,genre tag-obsessed hipster ever.

 

[Omni]

The irony of the above post.

 

[Mort Divine]

Yeah, I do not hear much Manowar in a lot of current metal bands today. Those bands are not metal, right? You just happen to be the most closed-minded,genre tag-obsessed hipster ever.

/facebrick

Hard rock refers to the blues rock style of those bands I mentioned, it isn't Slipknot, it isn't Disturbed, it is Van Halen, Led Zep, Deep Purple, Thin Lizzy, etc.

You are so fucking stupid.

Also: pot, kettle, black, calling, etc.

 

[Alter]

The irony of the above post.

Explain.

 

[Omni]

With you, it's always "[genre]-influenced" or "this band has a feeling like [genre]" and the hipster part speaks for itself.

 

[Alter]

I understand what you are saying there but I was pointing out that Mort Divine's idea of hard rock is totally wrong and that his points lack any real meaning besides the basic idea of the founding hard rock bands.

 

[Omni]

That Slipknot song still isn't hard rock.

 

[Alter]

Yes, it is.

 

[Mort Divine]

Could you at least try to contain your stupidity?

 

[seedofvengeance]

It isn't Hard Rock, but your parameters for it having to sound like a bunch of bands from 20 years ago are also wrong.
Rock has evolved, just as Metal has.

 

[Mort Divine]

I'm not saying rock hasn't evolved, I'm just saying hard rock is a specific sound within rock.

 

[seedofvengeance]

Hard rock nowadays is just heavier rock.

 

[Mort Divine]

only no

 

[seedofvengeance]

Whatever... who cares... This specifically defining genres thing is tiring. I think of bands such as Godsmack, Disturbed, and some of the psuedo metal acts (Five Finger Death Punch, among others) as Hard Rock, and frankly, beyond that.. I don't care that much.

 

[Crimson Velvet]

I can't help but notice that no one has even tried to articulate which new elements Slipknot has supposedly acquired to be redeemed from the "-core" classification, and be accepted into the more favourable "hard rock" genre...

 

[Zephyrus]

I think in terms of analogy. Heavy Metal evolved into Extreme Metal just as old school Hard Rock (Zep, Aerosmith, Deep Purple) evolved into modern Hard Rock like Disturbed and Papa Roach. Anything lighter than modern Hard Rock I just called Modern Rock, obviously.

I haven't heard the new Slipknot song, but it should be judged comparatively to contemporary Hard Rock bands.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Nothing about Slipknot is hard rock whatsoever. Calling these bands the evolution of anything is to give them far too much credit. If anything, bands like Slipknot, Disturbed & Papa Roach are an example of the dumbing down, commercialisation and devolution of modern metal. This does not make them hard rock by default. Just because they suck doesn't mean they should be disassociated with metal and lumped in with another genre entirely.

 

[mutantllama]

Now, I would consider Alice in Chains hard rock, because I can hear the blues influence still.

 

[seedofvengeance]

I can't help but notice that no one has even tried to articulate which new elements Slipknot has supposedly acquired to be redeemed from the "-core" classification, and be accepted into the more favourable "hard rock" genre...

That's because I specifically said I don't think they're Hard Rock. I just said his definitions of Hard Rock are off.