Controversial opinions on metal

[The Ozzman]

Tapping the Vein is the best Sodom album I've heard, so..

 

[suckerleaf]

No love for Enemy of God?

 

[Dak]

Tapping the Vein is my fav Sodom album. I have some old Destruction stuff but I haven't been able to get into it. Never cared much for Kreator either.

 

[CiG]

Pleasure To Kill is fucking amazing. First and third album are cool too.

I definitely prefer Sodom of the big three German thrash bands though. Agent Orange is a classic.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Agent Orange is generic as fuck. One of the worst big-name thrash metal albums of the 80s.

 

[CiG]

Fuck no.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

The title track is literally a Sacred Reich ripoff. Can you imagine how crappy a band's album is when the title and opening track is a fucking Sacred Reich ripoff? Sodom, beyond their earliest first-wave stuff, is one of the least original and interesting thrash bands around.

 

[CiG]

Well I never said they were original, who cares?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

People that care about good riffs should care.

 

[CiG]

It does have good riffs.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Sodom writes maybe two good riffs per album.

 

[CiG]

You spew maybe two good opinions per day.

 

[Vilden]

I kind of agree with HBB, Sodom is easily the worst of the big German thrash bands, atleast beyond the black metal days. Just sounds bland and boring (with a few exceptions).

Destruction and Kreator is pretty much even for me. I actually like Extreme Aggression more than Pleasure to Kill but that's just as much nostalgia as anything else.

 

[Slayed Necros]

I rate Destruction's EP and debut way above anything else, except In the Sign of Evil which is really close. Expurse of Sodomy is probably the next best thing by Sodom.

Seeing as we're talking about old Teutonic shit I'll take the opportunity to say Iron Angel's Hellish Crossfire kills and is near perfect speed metal.

 

[CiG]

Actually my favourite of the teutonic thrash is probably Necronomicon.
Destruction are my least favourite of the big three though.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Necronomicon is like a third-rate Destruction though. That's like saying Metallica is your least favorite of the big four and loving Xentrix.

EDIT: Actually, their first album and Escalation are the ones I heard, and that was like a decade ago. I just decided to listen to Apocalyptic Nightmare on YouTube and while this still sounds just like Destruction, this actually sounds like something I need to give a chance. You still suck for putting Destruction over them, however.

 

[CiG]

You still suck for putting Destruction over them, however.

Over Necronomicon?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yeah. The first song on this Necronomicon album, Rhetorical Dictums, is so full of Destruction-style riffing it's ridiculous, but at the same time this kind of riffing is so rare to hear replicated, that I don't care, I'm really enjoying this. Fuck, I'm getting chills hearing a couple riffs in this second song. I take it back. I'm a faggot, you're the best. I'll give Escalation another chance next.

 

[CiG]

I always felt as if Necronomicon had this weird vibe, hard to put your finger on but it has an atmosphere and charm to it.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yeah, some of these riffs are super fucking bizarre, a little bit of that proto-Master's Hammer thing that Living Death has going on for them too, relatively non-aggressive for thrash but oddly melodic and sad sounding at times, the kind of thing I wish black metal turned into. The nice thing about ripping off a band that avoids basic bitch thrash riffing is that it still sounds more original than 90% of other stuff out there. I still think you should relisten to early Destruction if you can't hear some of that same kind of riffing though, I'm hearing Eternal Devastation (my all-time favorite album riff-wise) in this all over the place.