Controversial opinions on metal

[Phylactery]

Because over 50% of their material is terrible. So if you're calling Graveland overrated for that reason, it makes sense for Metallica and Slayer too.

What a terribly vague and poorly articulated critique. Tons of black metal bands have long songs with only two or three passages. Burzum made its fucking legacy doing that. That, in fact, is one of the reasons that black metal and post rock are so compatible: both genres contain compositional templates that rely on the rely on repetition and/or gradual development.

Yeah that was a pretty vague critique. There's plenty out there that details exactly why Deafheaven is the nadir of black metal (if you can even call it that). In my view, it's crap because it takes the most generic tremolo melodies imaginable, pastes blast beats over them and inserts random acoustic noodling in between. Just like most other "post-black metal". It's also disjointed and has incredibly grating vocals. Burzum certainly didn't write songs like this.

The fact that HamburgerBoy jumps to their defence (despite him probably not even liking them) shows just how terrible they actually are. He likes to latch on to these maligned bands and spout shit about how "at least they have more riffs than *insert good band*".

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

poor Hamburger Boy. Always getting picked on. Hamburger Boy can you please put a long time mystery of mine to rest and tell me the origins of your user name?

 

[Slayed Necros]

Speaking of Graveland, were any of you queers aware of this?

 

[no country for old wainds]

And before you ask a band that isn't over rated would have to be a band that has every album, or the vast majority of their albums, stellar and elite, such as Nokturnal Mortum, Sulphur Aeon, Nevermore, Bloodbath, Enslaved etc.

so you are consistent with this weird ass definition of overrated. that's fine then.

 

[no country for old wainds]

Speaking of Graveland, were any of you queers aware of this?

i was but i haven't listened to it. good?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yeah that was a pretty vague critique. There's plenty out there that details exactly why Deafheaven is the nadir of black metal (if you can even call it that). In my view, it's crap because it takes the most generic tremolo melodies imaginable, pastes blast beats over them and inserts random acoustic noodling in between. Just like most other "post-black metal". It's also disjointed and has incredibly grating vocals. Burzum certainly didn't write songs like this.

The fact that HamburgerBoy jumps to their defence (despite him probably not even liking them) shows just how terrible they actually are. He likes to latch on to these maligned bands and spout shit about how "at least they have more riffs than *insert good band*".

Give specific examples of how they're generic and other bands that were doing it first.

Sunbather is a pleasant album, I don't go out of my way to listen to it, but it sounds nice and the songwriting doesn't feel nearly as repetitious or simple as many acclaimed black metal albums.

poor Hamburger Boy. Always getting picked on. Hamburger Boy can you please put a long time mystery of mine to rest and tell me the origins of your user name?

 

[Slayed Necros]

i was but i haven't listened to it. good?

Some of the older songs sound pretty cool, the Thousand Swords tracks, not so good. Decent for re-recordings I guess.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

so you are consistent with this weird ass definition of overrated. that's fine then.

Thanks for your support.

 

[The Ozzman]

Vanilla Load amirite?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I wish my loads were vanilla-flavored.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

Eat a bunch of vanilla beans and you might make it happen.

 

[CiG]

The logic isn't weird at all. i listened to songs i was familiar with, but hadn't heard in a long time. these songs were scattered throughout the albums I mentioned. The albums I mentioned make up 50% of the band's career and are replete with filler. As stated by others, the band's early 90's material is easily the best output they ever had, but makes up less than half of their career. Everyone always gushes over Graveland (not "early Graveland") but from what I just articulated, it's clear they're over rated.

And you did this all in an hour? Woah what is your secret, I want what he's got, I'll have what she's having, I'll buy that for a dollar etc etc etc.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Doesn't Chrome let you listen to videos on YouTube at double speed? Maybe even 4x? Sounds legit to me.

 

[CiG]

OH THAT'S HOW HE DID IT DOYYY.

 

[Vilden]

Yeah M&D to SoH is not even close to 50% of the bands discog. Maybe 30%. And listening scattered parts of the albums and concluding they are filled with filler? Kind of loose points.
Graveland has their thing going though so if you want to be suprised with each album, they aren't for you (atleast not anymore).

I would suck Darkens cock if I could though so I'm probably not the right person to listen to...

 

[CiG]

I wish my loads were vanilla-flavored.

You'd eat your own loads wouldn't you?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Nah, but my bedroom would probably smell better.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

And you did this all in an hour? Woah what is your secret, I want what he's got, I'll have what she's having, I'll buy that for a dollar etc etc etc.

Yea, it's kinda hard to explain so try and stick with me here, but see on these digital media players we all use there's this cool button I found to fast forward, rewind, start and stop. It really helps you control time when you need to!

 

[CiG]

Yea, it's kinda hard to explain so try and stick with me here, but see on these digital media players we all use there's this cool button I found to fast forward, rewind, start and stop. It really helps you control time when you need to!

It also really helps to absolutely ruin any credibility your opinion might have on the quality of an album or discography.

What's next, going to opine on a fucking movie after you fast-forwarded through 84 minutes of it?

 

[The Ozzman]

Nah, but my bedroom would probably smell better.

Holy shit, my sides