Controversial opinions on metal

[crimsonfloyd]

Well I don't understand why you have Deafheaven and Prometheus on your top 100 black metal list and you have no Greek black metal.

Different tastes. Old Wainds had a great description of why Thousand Swords is so good. It was something like "the most sophisticated integration of folk into metal".

Non Serviam is on there and His Majesty at the Swamp and Thy Mighty Contract just missed the mark.

As for the integration of folk into metal, I would agree if we were talking about Following the Voice of Blood, which exhibits far better writing and production.

 

[Phylactery]

Oh sorry, I missed that you had included Non Serviam. Great album. What about Necromantia, Zemial, Nocternity, Kawir, Legion of Doom, Macabre Omen etc?

I really like FtVoB as well, I just think TS is even better.

 

[CiG]

Deafheaven fucking stink.

Just spent the last hour listening to some "classic" bands and I've come to the following conclusion that's sure to be controversial: Graveland is kinda over rated.

I don't really see that they're overrated, maybe in small pockets of the internet. Which album by the way?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

More metal and better riffs than most other "black metal".

EDIT: Regarding Memeheaven

 

[CiG]

More metal and better riffs than most other "black metal".

EDIT: Regarding Memeheaven

That's retarded, but your opinions on black metal in general seem pretty fucking retarded so at least you're consistent in your retardation.

 

[Phylactery]

I'm not sure if he's said "black metal" because Deafheaven isn't really even black metal and he's comparing them to other similar stuff. Or he's just ragging on black metal as usual.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Deafheaven is as metal as most other prefixed black metal. They have decent songs too.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

Well they put out like 5 albums in just 5 or 6 years at one point. I listened to songs covering this period, from I think Memory and Destiny to Spears of Heaven, and heard a lot of filler scattered throughout. I've never been a fanboy though...casual appreciator/general fan is more accurate. I enjoy the music but surely it doesn't live up to the band's golden reputation?

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Well they put out like 5 albums in almost 5 or 6 years at one point. I listened to songs covering this period, from I think Memory and Destiny to Spears of Heaven, and heard a lot of filler scattered throughout. I've never been a fanboy though...casual appreciator/general fan is more accurate. I enjoy the music but surely the band isn't as great as everyone believes?

He ran out of ideas after Memory and Destiny and has fallen into a loop of redundancy. His newer stuff is good, but its certainly nothing special or original, save the addition of the choirs. You basically know what you're gonna get with every single album.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Oh sorry, I missed that you had included Non Serviam. Great album. What about Necromantia, Zemial, Nocternity, Kawir, Legion of Doom, Macabre Omen etc?

I really like FtVoB as well, I just think TS is even better.

I haven't heard Nocternity or Kawir. As for the others, I would describe them all as good bands. However, I haven't heard a truly great album from any of them.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

Fair assessment.

 

[CiG]

Yeah, I strictly stick to his 1990's works.

 

[Krow]

I haven't heard Nocternity or Kawir. As for the others, I would describe them all as good bands. However, I haven't heard a truly great album from any of them.

From Those I'd say Necromantia and Nocternity are the top tier. The other bands, I see a lot of hype but they dont deliver hard enough for me.

 

[CiG]

Zemial for me > the rest mentioned.

 

[Slayed Necros]

Necromantia and Zemial are easily the best two bands from that list, but I like them all. Legion of Doom are super underrated too.

 

[Vilden]

Both Carpathian Wolves and The Celtic Winter > Thousand Swords but they all rules.

Graveland is probably the most consistant band in existence. No bad release in the whole career and most are not just good but really great!

About the greek bm list: I think Necromantia is an obvious inclusion in an top 100 bm list and I would personally probably include Zemial too but I can see why they aren't. The other bands suggested are abit lower tier.

 

[J.]

coming to the conclusion that Graveland is "overrated" after listening to songs "from I think Memory and Destiny to Spears of Heaven" in the span of an hour (what, like 4 songs?) is like listening to only Darkthrone's blackcrust era and judging the band solely on those specific albums. it's borderline retarded.

Memory and Destiny and Fire Chariot of Destruction are the best from that era. Spears of Heaven is the nadir of the band. FtVoB is his magnum opus.

I never cared for Kawir until I heard Isotheos. Stellar album.

Never cared for Deafheaven or their ilk. Then again, I dont care for coffee shops, art houses, Hillary Clinton, or liberal and hipster ideologies. The music sucks too

 

[CiG]

Never cared for Deafheaven or their ilk. Then again, I dont care for coffee shops, art houses, Hillary Clinton, or liberal and hipster ideologies. The music sucks too

Fuggin' my sig from now on.

 

[EspaDa]

He has to write posts more often

 

[Talos of Atmora]

This is an excerpt from a MA review of Sunbather that essentially sums up why I don't like it.

"Right from the off, the listener is treated to major-scale post-rock strumming which is joined shortly after by blast beats, all of which are played at a high tempo and at a VERY loud volume. The vocals then come in, being a sort of screech buried behind the wall of noise that is the instruments. This continues for about 5 minutes, and then it all goes quiet for about 30 seconds whilst an acoustic guitar line is played. The band then comes crashing back into the music, playing at a much slower tempo than before, and continuing this way right till the end of the track."