Controversial opinions on metal

[Elric of Melniboné]

power (not flowery shit)

To be clear, this is also the type of power metal in my rankings. Some of the cutesy Euro flower metal is fun, but I don't really listen to it.

 

[Baroque]

please name non-flowery power metal

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

please name non-flowery power metal

Hmmm...

This doesn't seem worthwhile since you've been pretty outspoken about disliking a lot of 1980s power metal, and most trad metal in general which has a big stylistic overlap with that type of music.

If I had to name one, 1980s Helstar would be a good example of what I'm talking about. They're also one of the few that I haven't seen you speak negatively about.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

please name non-flowery power metal

Most USPM.

 

[Baroque]

I like Helstar

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

Black > extreme thrash > death > doom > non-extreme thrash > trad > power.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

80's oddball italian lo-fi prog metal > trad > power > doom > death > black > thrash

flowery power metal is the best kind of power metal.

 

[Phylactery]

Can you give examples of flowery power metal that you think is good?

Also, I thought that spamming black and death metal songs in the Mixtape game would shove those genres up in your estimation. Clearly I've failed.

 

[Satanstoenail]

please name non-flowery power metal

Manowar

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

please name non-flowery power metal

Cain's Offering, Firewind (early material) etc. Plenty of bands.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

Can you give examples of flowery power metal that you think is good?

You'll regret asking.

Also, I thought that spamming black and death metal songs in the Mixtape game would shove those genres up in your estimation. Clearly I've failed.

You have shown me some good stuff within those genres but I am not going to rank them above my favorite subgenres.

 

[Phylactery]

I thought you'd post Lost Horizon and Blind Guardian! I've not heard the rest apart from Stratovarius and Dragonforce which I thought were crap last time I listened to them. I'll listen to the ones I haven't heard, thanks!

 

[The Ozzman]

The only Dragonforce worth checking out is the first one anyway

 

[Vegard Pompey]

Stratovarius and Dragonforce are crap on the whole but in both cases some of their early material is good. Early Stratovarius has a melancholy and gravitas that is uncharacteristic for flower metal. Dragonforce is and always was total cheese but their first two albums were solid and that particular song I posted is godly.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

While not my favorite power metal band, Stratovarius has consistently put out solid albums over their career. Last year's was good, but not great, but the one before that, Nemesis, is fucking awesome. So many good songs. And the early material is indeed quite strong as well.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

Can you give examples of flowery power metal that you think is good?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Blackened thrash bands that are good, like Destroyer666, do some amazing things that I don't find in most traditional death or black metal.

D666 has done nothing you can't find in hundreds of bands before them.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

D666 has done nothing you can't find in hundreds of bands before them.

Weirdly enough, I don't think that anyone (including the band) is claiming that they're very original.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

The guy I just quoted would seem to disagree.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

Saying that a band does something that not a lot of other bands do doesn't mean that you feel that they're really original. I like the band and feel that they aren't really original on the whole, but I also can't think of any other bands that sound quite like them that weren't formed after them. There have been a few since then.