Controversial opinions on metal

[Phylactery]

Can you give examples of flowery power metal that you think is good?

Also, I thought that spamming black and death metal songs in the Mixtape game would shove those genres up in your estimation. Clearly I've failed.

 

[Satanstoenail]

please name non-flowery power metal

Manowar

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

please name non-flowery power metal

Cain's Offering, Firewind (early material) etc. Plenty of bands.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

Can you give examples of flowery power metal that you think is good?

You'll regret asking.

Also, I thought that spamming black and death metal songs in the Mixtape game would shove those genres up in your estimation. Clearly I've failed.

You have shown me some good stuff within those genres but I am not going to rank them above my favorite subgenres.

 

[Phylactery]

I thought you'd post Lost Horizon and Blind Guardian! I've not heard the rest apart from Stratovarius and Dragonforce which I thought were crap last time I listened to them. I'll listen to the ones I haven't heard, thanks!

 

[The Ozzman]

The only Dragonforce worth checking out is the first one anyway

 

[Vegard Pompey]

Stratovarius and Dragonforce are crap on the whole but in both cases some of their early material is good. Early Stratovarius has a melancholy and gravitas that is uncharacteristic for flower metal. Dragonforce is and always was total cheese but their first two albums were solid and that particular song I posted is godly.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

While not my favorite power metal band, Stratovarius has consistently put out solid albums over their career. Last year's was good, but not great, but the one before that, Nemesis, is fucking awesome. So many good songs. And the early material is indeed quite strong as well.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

Can you give examples of flowery power metal that you think is good?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Blackened thrash bands that are good, like Destroyer666, do some amazing things that I don't find in most traditional death or black metal.

D666 has done nothing you can't find in hundreds of bands before them.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

D666 has done nothing you can't find in hundreds of bands before them.

Weirdly enough, I don't think that anyone (including the band) is claiming that they're very original.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

The guy I just quoted would seem to disagree.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

Saying that a band does something that not a lot of other bands do doesn't mean that you feel that they're really original. I like the band and feel that they aren't really original on the whole, but I also can't think of any other bands that sound quite like them that weren't formed after them. There have been a few since then.

 

[CiG]

They're the only black/thrash band I know that add some epic elements to their music, but sure they're not very original.

I personally prefer G.O.T.H. anyway.

 

[no country for old wainds]

d666's leads are pretty distinctive. i'd like some recommendations of some other bands with leads like that actually.

 

[Krow]

They're the only black/thrash band I know that add some epic elements to their music, but sure they're not very original.

I personally prefer G.O.T.H. anyway.

Don't think I could agree with that. I like Gospel but at their best they can't touch D666.

As far as adding a bit of epic to their black/thrash, have you checked out the latest Desaster? Haven't heard it for a bit but I remember it having a fairly epic sound.

 

[CiG]

I haven't, but I will now.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

So is it controversial to say that Defiance is the best Destroyer666 record?

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

Most Deströyer 666 fans (including me) probably feel that it's their worst album, so I would say so. The production on the album is very offputting and a lot of the songs aren't on par with the other albums.

Edited for terrible phone typing errors.

 

[CiG]

Wildfire is better than Defiance.