Controversial opinions on metal

[The Ozzman]

No, i own the drumless version of Sin After Sin

edit: Hold on, im guessing you didn't even know he was the drummer on that album?

I knew that. That's the only metal album I know of that he's been on off hand.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

I knew that.

 

[The Butt]

Keep this going. It pleases me.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Name one Lombardo-era Slayer song with drumming that's impressive/interesting for reasons other than 1) speed 2) long bombastic drum fills. I'm not saying he's remotely bad or doesn't fit the band, and there are certain aspects of his style that are distinctive to him, but the best moments of Sin After Sin blow him away.

 

[Sirjack]

depends what you're after...solid with tasty fills...no real speed or long fills



or solid, a bit more dramatic with tasty fills...and blast beat..and tasty fills
Alex Marquez with Malevolent Creation
etc etc

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

name one song? hey Buttface, what was the facepalm count at again?

One of the best metal drummers of all time >>>> simon phillips

drums from Reign in Blood > Sin After Sin

Can you find me a list of greatest drummers that has him ahead of Lombardo? Because i can find countless ones that he's not even mentioned it.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Piece By Piece isn't really convincing me. Even Araya changes the rhythm of his vocal patterns more than Lombardo does; through the various faster riffs he basically stays on a single thrash beat until the brief portion at 1:05 where he switches to the hi-hat briefly. For the second half they give him more room for fills and they aren't even particularly good ones in that song. I mean, solid, absolutely, but it's the briefness and structure of the song that keeps it engaging. Compared to basically anything with Hoglan, for example, there's no contest.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Simon Phillips isn't really a metal drummer so obviously he's not going to be on lists of greatest metal drummers. People that make those kinds of lists usually have shit taste regardless. I'm sure on those same lists you'll find Charlie Benante as well.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

i didnt say metal lists. And no shit hes not a metal drummer ... hence my "one of the best metal drummers > him" statement.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yeah, I'll be sure to take Rolling Stone and other pop media lists seriously.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

What bout the other thousands of lists out there?

Here's another one that i just randomly found ...
http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-best-drummers-of-all-time

Pretty solid list if you ask me, although Krupa is a bit low imo. And Buddy Rich should be at the top 3 of any list.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

A website where fanboys can rate their favorite drummers highly. Apparently Nicko McBrain and Vinnie Paul are two of the all-time greatest drummers too, lol. I don't care how many lists you find. His drumming is actually poor on Show No Mercy, only competent on Hell Awaits, and just good on the following albums until his exit.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Ok, so im guessing no list is going to be good enough for you ... unless you yourself are the author.

 

[The Batlord]

In all fairness Ranker is dogshit.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... and so are most of your posts, but you dont see me complaining.

He was talking shti about websites and publications ... so i posted a link where people themselves voted. And regardless of where it comes from, that is a pretty fuckin solid list ... to say otherwise is incredibly telling.

Also, can you guys find me a list where he is ranked higher than Lombardo? Just one, please.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I never said Phillips was more popular than Lombardo.

 

[The Butt]

name one song? hey Buttface, what was the facepalm count at again?

11 if I recall, but we can nudge it to 12 for good measure just because hey, it's HBB.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

You're basically saying "MY OPINIONS TRUMP EVERYONE ELSE'S". Stop being a little faggot and get down from your high horse.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

11 if I recall, but we can nudge it to 12 for good measure just because hey, it's HBB.

You must be only counting the faceapalms from you. I think he's in the hundreds(if not thousands) if we take everyone into consideration.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You're basically saying "MY OPINIONS TRUMP EVERYONE ELSE'S". Stop being a little faggot and get down from your high horse.

Well, they do. Why should I enjoy Lombardo's drumming on that Priest cover more than the original just because random people with journalism degrees say that Lombardo is a better drummer?