Controversial opinions on metal

[HamburgerBoy]

I don't personally love the early Motley Crue albums, but I do think they're really solid and definitely classics with new ideas at the time. I wouldn't give them too much credit since there were already four Van Halen albums out by the time Too Fast for Love was even recorded, but they definitely helped to define the scene and style.

EDIT: Also, Ratt seems to get a lot of crap, but I just listened to Out of the Cellar recently as was surprised at how good it was from start to finish.

 

[The Batlord]

Early Van Halen was def important, but I think that early Crue might MIGHT have been a different voice in metal/rock that might have moved forward. And early Ratt sounds more like a step down from what the Crue were doing at the time. This isn't a particularly hard theory of mine, but just sort of a hypothesis.

Like how so many glam metal bands CLAIMED to be taking up what the New York Dolls were doing in the 70s, while they were just bullshitting, Motley Crue might have been doing for a couple albums.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

Yea MC are fun to listen to. Much better than G&R.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

van halen are garbage, so are motley cure. And neither one of them are metal.

 

[The Batlord]

van halen are garbage, so are motley cure. And neither one of them are metal.

I will fuck your children. And I will make them like it.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

 

[The Batlord]

I've just been listening to Led Zeppelin's first four albums to see if they're truly worthwhile, and I've come to the conclusion that Led Zeppelin are a pile of ass who make amazing rock n roll but fail at pretty much everything else they do. Their folk is abysmal, and their blues is basically the stereotype of bad white dude blues.

And unless God comes down and splits the heavens starting with Houses of the Holy then I don't see anything changing. So fuck Led Zeppelin.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

When it comes to Zeppelin, the first thing that comes to mind is that I'd much rather be listening to Deep Purple.

Probably the most overrated band of all time. Still a good band though .... good, not great.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Led Zeppelin make amazing rock n roll

So fuck Led Zeppelin.

 

[The Batlord]

LOL. Pretty much all the things that Led Zeppelin do besides rocking out are boring as all fucking shit, but when they do rock they god damn fucking rock. They just happen to do so much else than rock. Even in songs with rock in them they insist on throwing in boring shit that tests my patience.

When it comes to Zeppelin, the first thing that comes to mind is that I'd much rather be listening to Deep Purple.

Probably the most overrated band of all time. Still a good band though .... good, not great.

I was actually thinking the exact same thing when I wrote that post. Then I went and listened to Asia, but go figure. But I can't think of a single Zeppelin album I'd want to listen to front to back, but god damn do I love at least a few Deep Purple albums all the way through.

 

[CiG]

Led Zeppelin shine the most when they add ballad and rock in my opinion. Sort of proto-epic metal.

I'm pretty sure there are some that aren't ;-)

I said pretty much every so sure, I'm allowing for the possibility that some aren't.

 

[Baroque]

Guitar solo wise:

Van Halen > GnR > Motley Crue

 

[The Batlord]

Who the fuck cares about guitar solos when Motley Crue's songs destroy all of those bands?

 

[Satanstoenail]

Mick Mars wrote better riffs than Slash and Izzy.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

riffs, lol. For gods sake we're talking about fuckin' guns n roses, skid row and motley crue. What riffs?

 

[Baroque]

AC/DC haven't been mentioned but they are the masters of the arena hard rock riff. so simple and straightforward yet they kick the ass of most rock bands including motley crue

 

[CiG]

I feel the same way about KISS, though that probably won't go over well here, but they ruled the arena hard rock riff for so long.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

i wont do AC/DC the disservice of mentioning them with most of these other shitty bands.They are straight-forward hard rock though ...unlike some of these wannabe heavy metal bands.

quiet riot. glam or not?

 

[Baroque]

nah man I wouldn't say quiet riot is glam. they weren't that good and had like 1 good song. but glam? i thought they dressed more like judas priest or something

radio friendly =/= glam

 

[Krow]

Quiet Riot's existence is weird. Their famous song isn't even theirs and it doesn't even fit on the album but it's crammed directly in the middle.

It doesn't even really sound different from the original.

I don't really consider them glam for whatever that's worth. Hard rock with a goofy image I guess.