Controversial opinions on metal

[Onder]

I've never even heard any one of those things. I don't even know what you're fucking talking about.

 

[Baroque]

You're fucking joking, right? On a pure technical level, his voice has only gotten richer with age. Maybe it rubs your ears the wrong way, but calling his vocals anything even remotely approaching bad is musically foolhardy if you look at his pipes on a technical rubric.

He has decent phrasing but really no musical training at all. His guitar playing is lacking in the technical dept. also

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

he pretty much got more annoying with each album after PtK. Sounds like some scorned german woman with an attitude or something. Cant stand his accent either.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You're fucking joking, right? On a pure technical level, his voice has only gotten richer with age. Maybe it rubs your ears the wrong way, but calling his vocals anything even remotely approaching bad is musically foolhardy if you look at his pipes on a technical rubric.

With the foreclosure that I simply dislike his voice irrespective of any technical abilities, what would be an example or two of his most technically demanding performances?

he pretty much got more annoying with each album after PtK. Sounds like some scorned german woman with an attitude or something. Cant stand his accent either.

Exactly this, he just has a really annoying voice to me.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

he is by far the worst vocalist out of the teutonic big-three.

edit: i think he sounds better now than he did in the 90's.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Particular songs? I don't really care if he can still do high-pitched shrieks if they sound like shit tbh. I don't have an ear for identifying pitches but off the top of my head can't think of much that shows his lower range, unless you're one of those guys that says Halford can sing in the first octave because of the talk-whispers on Night Crawler or something.

 

[CiG]

Sounds like some scorned german woman with an attitude or something.

 

[CiG]

I think he sounds fucking ruthless of Terrible Certainty and even on Extreme Aggression, albeit he sung a little too much with clean vocals on that.



I think the biggest problem with him is that he sounds best on songs that are very fast and aggressive, but Kreator started to faff around a lot with their songs in the 1990's. They're a meat and potatoes thrash metal band that tried to step up into different things and basically fucked themselves.

 

[The Butt]

ummmm, do you really need me to break that down? Hetfields nuts ---> your mouth ... oh im sorry, i mean thebutts mouth.

Fuckin' internet tough guy

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

 

[CF87]

I've never even heard any one of those things. I don't even know what you're fucking talking about.

That day, Tomorrow, it never comes, now there's some kind of monster under my bed, it never sleeps, it never gives respect, all nightmare long is reality.

 

[Satanstoenail]

I just went to check out some new Kreator to see how Mille's sounding these days and holy cringe


I saw Kreator about 10 years ago and he sounded terrible, sort of a weird shrieking.. I love his vocals up to Coma of Souls though. Great harsh thrash voice.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

harsh?

 

[Satanstoenail]

harsh?

Yes harsh

Sorry, why are we laughing?

 

[Satanstoenail]

He sounds fine. What are you on about?

His voice is ok, much better than when I saw them last but the song is cringeworthy as hell.

 

[Satanstoenail]

It's just a salute to rock's fallen, nothing that cringeworthy there.

It's a lame generic euro pop metal song with cheesy lyrics. I haven't kept up with what Kreator have been doing for some time so this comes as a bit of a shock to me.

 

[CiG]

If Kreator wanted to write a song dedicated to Lemmy, they probably shouldn't have written a song that sounds like leftover Ministry material.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

For his higher range, Your Heaven, My Hell, Hordes of Chaos (A Necrologue For The Elite), Radical Resistance, Destroy What Destroys You, for a few. Mostly ranging from C5 to D5 in terms of it. For his lower range, Death Becomes My Light and As We Watch The West particularly. And then overall, Absolute Misanthropy and Amok Run display an immense range for single tracks.

Fair enough, checked out a few of these at least and he definitely sings more than on earlier stuff. I suppose it really bothers me because Renewal and Cause for Conflict are the post-PTK albums I find to be the most redeeming musically/song-wise, but the vocals on those annoy me the most of all. By the time he found an acceptable middle ground, the music turned to kinda schlocky melothrash.

I think he sounds fucking ruthless of Terrible Certainty and even on Extreme Aggression, albeit he sung a little too much with clean vocals on that.

<As the World Burns>

I think the biggest problem with him is that he sounds best on songs that are very fast and aggressive, but Kreator started to faff around a lot with their songs in the 1990's. They're a meat and potatoes thrash metal band that tried to step up into different things and basically fucked themselves.

Is it controversial to say that As the World Burns is a fucking horrible song and inappropriately upbeat? I hate that song so much.

 

[EspaDa]

This song is cringeworthy.

 

[CiG]

Is it controversial to say that As the World Burns is a fucking horrible song and inappropriately upbeat? I hate that song so much.

I'm not sure you have any opinions that aren't controversial. Pretty impressive.