Controversial opinions on metal

[Talos of Atmora]

Lulz

Yeah, the sheer disparity between the overall quality of Overkill's discography and any one of the Big Four's is hilarious.

 

[CiG]

Most consistent maybe.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Overkill only has two eternal classics for me, Feel the Fire and Horrorscope, pretty strong discography all things considered but not the greatest. At least a few crappy albums in there too, e.g. Necroshine.

 

[CiG]

Their peaks are more flat than Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer I think.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I prefer Overkill's peaks to Slayer's peaks but only out of pure enjoyment and not objective musical significance. Hell Awaits and Reign in Blood are their most consistent albums and generally great, but even those only have maybe a couple 10/10 songs each, whereas the best Metallica and Megadeth albums (and Bonded By Blood) are at least 50% 10/10s. But that's probably because Slayer is more of an albums-band than a songs-band, fitting for a death metal band.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Destruction undoubtedly deserves placement over Sepultura.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

No, they shouldn't. I love Destruction, but they don't belong above any of the 5 bands they're placed directly over. With Sepultura and Overkill, I'd gladly put Chaos A.D. or its ilk against Ironbound or Under The Influence.

but Chaos AD isnt even a top 3 Sepultura album. Which Overkill albums would you put up against say Schizophrenia or Beneath the Remains?

Oh and those two albums are also better than anything Destruction has also done.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Most consistent maybe.

yeah. They consistently pumped out crap after crap from the 90's(post Horrorscope) all the way up to 2010, where they finally released a good album again.

Yeah, the sheer disparity between the overall quality of Overkill's discography and any one of the Big Four's is hilarious.

you are truly delusional.

 

[Baroque]

The objectively-correct power ranking:

Metallica
Slayer
Megadeth
Exodus
Celtic Frost*
Destruction
Sodom
Kreator
Voivod
Sepultura
Overkill
Anthrax
Testament
Dark Angel
Possessed
Watchtower
Coroner
Nuclear Assault**
DRI**
Suicidal Tendencies**
Artillery
Razor
Flotsam & Jetsam
Sacrifice
Holy Moses
Death Angel
Annihilator
Mekong Delta
Bulldozer
Living Death
Tankard
Sacred Reich
Messiah
Hirax
Whiplash
Deathrow
Heathen
Hallow's Eve
Onslaught

*If they count
**Somewhere around there, I can't be bothered to differentiate the three

Wtf is Anthrax doing over Dark Angel in a power ranking. Maybe popularity ranking

I'd reorder most of this list but don't feel like it atm

 

[Baroque]

Thrash metal has the worst fanbase in the entire metal scene. Who the hell cares about the big four anymore?

Ask the sold out Rose Bowl crowd seeing Metallica with me last night. 70k fans right there.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... my ears hurt just reading that post.

Wtf is Anthrax doing over Dark Angel in a power ranking. Maybe popularity ranking

i also would've been shocked ... if it was coming from anyone else.

 

[EspaDa]

... my ears hurt just reading that post.

Why? Elaborate.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... because i would have loved to be there(Rose Bowl is about 2 miles from my house), but i'm not sure what it would have done to my tinnitus.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

here's the thing though, i havent lost any hearing(i took a hearing test) and im 99% sure that i didnt get it from loud music/noises etc. But my ears have become muuuuch more sensitive to loud noises. so weird.

 

[EspaDa]

... because i would have loved to be there(Rose Bowl is about 2 miles from my house), but i'm not sure what it would have done to my tinnitus.

Ah, okay, thought you responded to this:

Thrash metal has the worst fanbase in the entire metal scene. Who the hell cares about the big four anymore?

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

i used the little orange earplugs, but i havent been shooting in years. I think it might have to do with an overload of stress, or maybe a pinched nerve from working out wrong or something. It might've even been some ibu-profen(ototoxic) that i took back then.

no one in my family has had tinnitus, and some of them look at me like i'm crazy when i try and explain it to them. Like they think im hearing voices or some shit lol, so i dont even bother anymore.

but yeah man i saw one of those headphones at my friends house a few months ago and was amazed. I could hear everyone around me talking but it would cancel out the loud/piercing noises.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

Overkill only has two eternal classics for me, Feel the Fire and Horrorscope

I would have put The Years of Decay on there as well but of those three, Horrorscope is definitely my favorite.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Wtf is Anthrax doing over Dark Angel in a power ranking. Maybe popularity ranking

I'd reorder most of this list but don't feel like it atm

"Maybe" popularity ranking? Absolutely popularity. Dark Angel never charted with a single album nor did they ever make it to a major label. Popularity is a factor in a power ranking, as well as reach. Anthrax did influence a lot of bands; shitty ones, often, but influence nonetheless. Dark Angel was influential too, but I think it would be difficult to say that Dark Angel was much more influential, if at all more.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I just would like to know what the fuck Heathen is doing third from last? Three classic records, one of those nearly 30 years after their supposed prime, and they're at the bottom of the food chain? I don't think so. I'm not sure Exodus should be above Sodom either.

Reunion stuff doesn't count (and that third album is garbage anyways aside from the tracks from the 2005 demo). Heathen was late on the scene and didn't have a very distinctive sound. At the very least, they certainly don't deserve to be placed above bands like Death Angel, Sacred Reich, Annihilator, or Bulldozer. If you want to put them above Deathrow though then fine, whatevs.

Exodus absolutely belongs over Sodom. California, 1982, is where it began, and Sodom was not a part of that.

I would have put The Years of Decay on there as well but of those three, Horrorscope is definitely my favorite.

Too derivative of 86-88 era Metallica, but it's grown on me over time, definitely some great songwriting there.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

but I think it would be difficult to say that Dark Angel was much more influential, if at all more.

Lmfao! Keep going bro, just keep going. How many thrash albums do you own again? Now go open them up and read through the album inserts. stupid fuckin' pleb.

Heathen .....At the very least, they certainly don't deserve to be placed above bands like Death Angel, Sacred Reich, Annihilator, or Bulldozer.