Controversial opinions on metal

[Talos of Atmora]

Frost and Fire is untouchable.

Nah. King of the Dead is a substantial improvement over it and remains their best work.

 

[Dazed and Brutal]

I wonder what universe you're from if you really think that Manilla Road is one of the most influential underground metal bands.

From my understanding, wasn't it the digital age that really propelled their popularity? I'm sure they cultivated some cult appeal the regular ole homegrown way, but it wasn't really far reaching enough to be influential in the underground at the level of Bathory or Sepultura.

 

[CiG]

"touched greatness 8 times" lmfao

I think they actually attained greatness with the sound they generated (doesn't mean every album is great, but rather the potential is there), but in terms of their great albums even I don't think there is 8 of them. For me:

Metal, Crystal Logic and Spiral Castle are their true greats.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

For me, it would be The Deluge, Crystal Logic, Spiral Castle and Mystification. I'm sure some would disagree on the last one but still, Manilla Road doesn't have 8 full-lengths that could be considered superlative.

 

[CiG]

Oh and I might have to apologize to that new guy @DisconnectedFromReality about Louder Than Hell.
While not close to being their best, it's actually pretty cool. I'm enjoying listening to it and haven't wanted to skip one song yet.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

the only Manilla Road album that are better than good are The Deluge, Mystification and Crystal Logic.

Solid 3.5 band overall that sometimes touches the 4's.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Louder Than Hell is actually pretty cool

 

[CiG]

You don't even like the band.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

I'm enjoying listening to it and haven't wanted to skip one song yet.

 

[CiG]

So far it's on par with Cowboys from Hell.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Omni is slowly denouncing the in-crowd

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

You don't even like the band.

So me not liking a band means what here? Well tbh i can see why you're confused since i indeed dont like any bands that suck. But sadly, i've owned that album for years.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

Omni is slowly denouncing the in-crowd

 

[CiG]

So me not liking a band means what here? Well tbh i can see why you're confused since i indeed dont like any bands that suck. But sadly, i've owned that album for years.

It means your opinion on Manowar is worthless since you don't even like the band's best albums. Pretty obvious really.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

It means your opinion on Manowar is worthless since you don't even like the band's best albums. Pretty obvious really.

Louder Than Hell isn't their best or even any good so he's entirely on point here.

 

[CiG]

Louder Than Hell isn't their best or even any good so he's entirely on point here.

When was the last time you listened to it? Because saying it isn't any good is pretty ridiculous.

Also no I disagree, because what he's saying about Louder Than Hell he'd also say about Sign of the Hammer or Hail to England. So his view of Louder Than Hell is essentially indistinguishable from his view of any of their other albums.

Basically his general stance on Manowar is causing him to be accidentally correct to the forum consensus on Louder Than Hell right now.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

it's not good even in the slightest and is one of the worst albums i have in my 1000+ collection. Also, im pretty sure ive heard it more than you have(so i'd say my opinion on it is far more valuable than some stinking blinded manowar fanboy). But let me guess, you "found" your copy yesterday?

 

[The Ozzman]

Most important and influential underground band too

And yet they play to crowds of 10 people or less. Yep, super important and influential.

 

[Omni]

From my understanding, wasn't it the digital age that really propelled their popularity? I'm sure they cultivated some cult appeal the regular ole homegrown way, but it wasn't really far reaching enough to be influential in the underground at the level of Bathory or Sepultura.

Exactly. Bands that were actually influential during the 1980s are way more influential than Manilla Road. Mark Shelton even said that people didn't even like Crystal Logic that much compared to the albums that came after it until the 2000s when it became a cult hit because of word of mouth on metal forums.

Omni is slowly denouncing the in-crowd

...by posting opinions that I've had for years that some other prominent in-crowders agree with?

And yet they play to crowds of 10 people or less. Yep, super important and influential.

Manilla Road still headlines big metal festivals to this day, even though rms is blinded by fanboy goggles. They are overrated though.

 

[CiG]

it's not good even in the slightest and is one of the worst albums i have in my 1000+ collection. Also, im pretty sure ive heard it more than you have(so i'd say my opinion on it is far more valuable than some stinking blinded manowar fanboy). But let me guess, you "found" your copy yesterday?

You're a delusional buffoon.

They are overrated though.

In what context? GMD?

Because they weren't very influential I agree, I think they're actually an underrated band.