Controversial opinions on metal

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just cause varg name dropped an album once doesn't make it BM

That goes for most things. Riff-wise, Infernal Overkill has more in common with Tormentor than many things labeled first-wave black metal, not to mention that Schmier was an obvious pioneer of the vocal style, so I don't see the issue.
 
you're picking and choosing songs, which isnt fair tbh especially with Raise the Dead(which is a godly track btw). That being i said i agree that most first wave black metal is indeed thrash.

I hear no black metal when listening to Infernal Overkill, i hear some black metal in the Tormentor track you posted
 
I'm not saying the bands are identical or that Tormentor didn't go further, but just compare the riff at 0:19 of Destruction's with the one at 0:10 of Tormentor's for example. Or the general vocal styles of Schmier and Attila. The drumming is probably the biggest thing separating the two.

I actually picked a more extreme Bathory song, I could have picked Sacrifice if I was trying to cherry-pick against Bathory.
 
Mgla rules. It doesn't even have anything in common with whatever the chuds unironically describe as "atmoshit". Also imo Exercises In Futility is the band's best work, tied with Mdlosci. Easy 10/10.
 
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