Controversial opinions on metal
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Dehumanizer's the best Dio-era album. So yeah, I agree with that assessment.
I'd go so far as to rank it as one of the best Sabbath albums, behind Sabotage (their pinnacle), SBS, Vol 4, and Born Again.
Orion Crystal Ice
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'Dehumanizer' isn't very interesting to me at all..most of it is really unmemorable, it plods in the *bad* way, Dio's voice is grating in that style all the time, and it sounds like someone throwing around pots and pans in the desert, the production completely strips away any atmosphere or feeling. I'm still all about 'Heaven and Hell' as best Dio era album.
oh, and the problem with 'Headless Cross' is about 3-4 songs on it sound the same, but there's still more good stuff than just 'When Death Calls', though I'll agree that's the best one on it.
oh, and the problem with 'Headless Cross' is about 3-4 songs on it sound the same, but there's still more good stuff than just 'When Death Calls', though I'll agree that's the best one on it.
Holy crap. The Butt and The Ozzman are now officially not allowed to have opinions on Black Sabbath albums.
I only really liked Neon Knights and Die Young on that album. And I think the production on Dehumanizer is superb, so we're on completely different ends of the spectrum here I guess.
The title track is alright too... but any more than those two songs, just really grates the nerves.
It doesn't help that the album has that godawful stereotypical 80's production. Immense gated reverb on the drums.
And there's not a lot of distinction between instruments, and a muddy and awful guitar tone.
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Orion Crystal Ice
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If you seriously think that the production on Headless Cross is muddy and offers little distinction between the instruments, you're pretty deaf. The drumming has a lot of reverb, but nothing else about it is difficult to hear or worth complaining over.
Vilden
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Well, saying that Headless Cross is better than Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules negated your opinion too.
NO U
Mob Rules was better on subsequent listens actually, but it's my least favorite of the Dio albums
Nah.
Headless Cross is pretty much the only Sabbath album where I can't hear the bass, tbh. That is, when it's not playing by itself. Each instrument just sounds so wishy-washy and blended together.
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And neither are you if you think Headless Cross is better than any Dio-era album.
It might not be "muddy" per se, but it sure is lifeless and stale compared to the Ozzy and early Dio albums. Not to mention that most of the songs pretty much epitomise generic '80s metal.
Well, considering the fact that I can easily hear it, the only conclusion that I'm able to reach is that you're hard of hearing.
Tbh, the idea of a Martin-era album in general being better than a Dio-era one is preposterous. Much less Headless Cross, the worst of the bunch.
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The Butt is called The Butt for a reason.
Dio-Sabbath is tremendously overrated and pretty much everything else Sabbath did with every other singer is better than the Dio-fronted stuff. The only thing Dio was involved in that really rules is Rainbow.
Also Cross Purposes is so blatantly the worst Tony Martin-Sabbath album that it's not even funny, and people who don't think Headless Cross is at least one of the best non-Ozzy(/non-Dio for faggots)-Sabbath albums are just stupid. And Born Again and Seventh Star rule. Fuck you shitted-opinion people.
Dio-Sabbath is tremendously overrated and pretty much everything else Sabbath did with every other singer is better than the Dio-fronted stuff. The only thing Dio was involved in that really rules is Rainbow.
Also Cross Purposes is so blatantly the worst Tony Martin-Sabbath album that it's not even funny, and people who don't think Headless Cross is at least one of the best non-Ozzy(/non-Dio for faggots)-Sabbath albums are just stupid. And Born Again and Seventh Star rule. Fuck you shitted-opinion people.
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aww thanks hun
I don't much care for the Dio-era, 'cept for Dehumanizer which rocks tits, but it's better than any of the Martin-era.
Cross Purposes, as well as select songs from Eternal Idol are alright though.
Headless Cross, as Grant said, pretty much epitomizes generic 80s metal. Cheesy, reverb-laden stuff that overdoes synth more than a Thai hooker overdoes makeup.
At least Cross Purposes actually tries somewhat to sound like older Sabbath, and lay off the glam-sounding, synth-laden shit. Plus, I Witness is one of the best fucking Sabbath songs I've heard period.
Born Again and Seventh Star do indeed rule. I already mentioned how I consider BA to be one of the best Sabbath albums.
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