Controversial opinions on metal
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youdontknowme
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Wth, never thought you would also fail so much on this subject! Liking heavy metal and not liking Heaven and Hell is just wrong.
I agree that Headless Cross is really good but I've always like Tyr the most of the Tony Martin albums, maybe I'm alone on this?
zabu of nΩd
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If you ask me, pretty much any post-Ozzy Sabbath album could be called "one of the worst". They're all on an entirely lower order than the Ozzy material.
I don't see what causes you to believe that the Dio albums were especially bad, though. Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules were generally pretty catchy, and definitely more aggresive sounding than most of the later stuff, which largely sounds like them trying to imitate Europe and other cheeseball '80s bands. The sound is just really flat and lifeless in general. I think the Dio albums were an exception to that.
I don't see what causes you to believe that the Dio albums were especially bad, though. Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules were generally pretty catchy, and definitely more aggresive sounding than most of the later stuff, which largely sounds like them trying to imitate Europe and other cheeseball '80s bands. The sound is just really flat and lifeless in general. I think the Dio albums were an exception to that.
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Agreed, the ozzy era is just classic as it gets.
The dio stuff is good, but I can't get into all of it. I like rainbow and dio better even.
The black sabbath-The Dio Years is quite a compilation of the good dio era stuff though.
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Obviously the first 6 Black Sabbath album are leaps and bounds above the rest. This really does not need to be said at all. That, however, leaves a dozen albums unaccounted for, and I'm not about to label two thirds of a band's discography in which every single album is good "one of the worst."
The Dio material simply never struck me as incredible. Heaven and Hell is particularly spotty and features some of the worst tracks the band has ever done. Frankly, I would take the Heaven and Hell (the band) songs over much of this album. Mob Rules is more consistent and overall better. Dehumanizer has a few duds as well, but I would also put it above Heaven and Hell, which is...well, one of the most overrated albums ever, as far as I'm concerned. The only albums I would rank under it are Technical Ecstasy, Never Say Die, Cross Purposes, and Forbidden. As for the "cheeseball" comment, I think you're simply off-base and don't know what you're talking about. Then again a lot of people on this forum don't really know what they're talking about when it comes to lighter heavy metal in the 80s.
My opinion is better than everyone else's, and that's that.
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Okay, you have to be a serious Sabbath fanboy to call every single album they did good. That's just way too much credit.
Look, I realise that you may be used to listening to sterile, cookie-cutter metal, but that doesn't exempt most of later Sabbath from those descriptors. As I said, you're really trying too hard if you like all of Sabbath's discog.
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Not at all. Every single album is good. Their worst album (Cross Purposes) seems to be favored by people who are stupid though, for some reason. My apologies on behalf of Tony Iommi for not having memorable enough melodies or whatever it is you require in good music.
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sorry, Repulsion - Horrified owns the fuck out of that record.
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