Controversial opinions on metal

[skeptik]

He's not supposed to have a great voice. If he had a good singing voice, the atmosphere of the later albums would be altered. If you want 'epic' Bathory with good singing, just listen to Ereb Altor.

 

[no country for old wainds]

there is no such thing as 'great vocals' except in relation to the music accompanying them, as far as i'm concerned.

 

[ASD]

Of course Quorthon had a fairly bad voice by traditional standards, but the point wasn't be an amazing singer. I still love his vocals because of the emotion and effort he puts into them. Its better, because it gives off the feeling of a common man singing from his heart rather than a classically trained singer hitting all the perfect notes.

 

[JGMetalhead]

Say what you will about Arch Enemy, but i don't know how you could consider his guitar work worthless. Both the Amott brothers shred imo..

Arch Enemy is good stuff, I don't see the problem. And the guitar work seems quite nice.

 

[Shayler]

Power Metal (collectively) is complete shit.

 

[cookiecutter]

there is no such thing as 'great vocals' except in relation to the music accompanying them, as far as i'm concerned.

I think this is often but not necessarily true. The vocals have to fit with the music for them to be truly great, but I think there are times when the vocalist is very good regardless of the other instruments. No examples spring to mind right now but I'm sure it's happened.

 

[Krow]

Vital Remains is a horribly underrated band.

 

[-CC-]

Vital Remains rule, but I've never felt they were considered underrated..at least not when compared to the majority of other underground metal bands..they are all technically "underrated" if you ask the hordes of sheep

there is no such thing as 'great vocals' except in relation to the music accompanying them, as far as i'm concerned.

I disagree, there are a lot of skills and techniques involved with singing..I mean a singer that has a broader vocal range would be considered a more able singer than one that has a smaller one..that said, a vocalist needs to fit the accompanying music like you said in order for it to sound good..but it doesn't take away a vocalist skill just because they happened to throw in an opera singer in a pornogrind band

 

[IntoPhagist]

Say what you will about Arch Enemy, but i don't know how you could consider his guitar work worthless. Both the Amott brothers shred imo..

The first 3 Arch Enemy albums have amazing solos...and So Did Wages of Sin.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

I think this is often but not necessarily true. The vocals have to fit with the music for them to be truly great, but I think there are times when the vocalist is very good regardless of the other instruments. No examples spring to mind right now but I'm sure it's happened.

You could count any number of talented singer-songwriter chicks in pop music. I don't listen to much singer-songwriter pop, but Sinead O'Connor is a great example of amazing vocals over what is more or less background music. Beth Gibbons of Portishead is another incredible vocalist, and imo she often carries a lot of Portishead's music single-handedly.

 

[divine_torture]

Layne Staley

 

[waif]

Of course Quorthon had a fairly bad voice by traditional standards, but the point wasn't be an amazing singer. I still love his vocals because of the emotion and effort he puts into them. Its better, because it gives off the feeling of a common man singing from his heart rather than a classically trained singer hitting all the perfect notes.

This pretty much sums it up perfectly.

Power Metal (collectively) is complete shit.

Any statement like this is pretty much guaranteed to be retarded. The fact that you don't distinguish between USPM and Euro power gives me reason to suspect you don't know what you're talking about and simply don't like Dragonforce and Rhapsody.

 

[Shayler]

Even though I did type "collectively" for a reason, I'll spell it out. Nobody should have to willingly subject themselves to listening to USPM or Euro Power, or any other type of power metal for that matter. IN MY OPINION it's garbage.

 

[skeptik]

You most likely don't know shit about 80s US Power Metal bands like Omen, Griffin, Helstar, Liege Lord, Attacker, Jag Panzer, etc. But if you do and still don't like those bands, then you're gay.

 

[Shayler]

Then I'm gay.

 

[Dak]

Nobody should have to willingly subject themselves

Fail.

 

[JGMetalhead]

You most likely don't know shit about 80s US Power Metal bands like Omen, Griffin, Helstar, Liege Lord, Attacker, Jag Panzer, etc. But if you do and still don't like those bands, then you're gay.

Not only that but theres a good selections of progressive power metal bands out there like Symphony X, Intense, Lost Horizon, Thunderstone, and Symphorce. You should check those out. Power metal is still today one of my favorite genres but I've grown more on the more heavier/darker genres such as death metal (especially brutal death metal and Oldschool) and black metal.

 

[mutantllama]

Then I'm gay.

Glad you admit it.

 

[JGMetalhead]

Vital Remains rule, but I've never felt they were considered underrated..at least not when compared to the majority of other underground metal bands..they are all technically "underrated" if you ask the hordes of sheep



I disagree, there are a lot of skills and techniques involved with singing..I mean a singer that has a broader vocal range would be considered a more able singer than one that has a smaller one..that said, a vocalist needs to fit the accompanying music like you said in order for it to sound good..but it doesn't take away a vocalist skill just because they happened to throw in an opera singer in a pornogrind band

The thing about vital remains is and I may be a bit off because I haven't bothered listening to them for ages, is that well they seem like a lesser Deicide. But I heard their first album is phenominal but I haven't checked it out.

 

[Krow]

The thing about vital remains is and I may be a bit off because I haven't bothered listening to them for ages, is that well they seem like a lesser Deicide. But I heard their first album is phenominal but I haven't checked it out.

Vital Remains makes Deicide look like a fucking joke by comparison, tbh.